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Answer: Not today!
I remember when JFK was elected by the 110% vote from Cook County (Dailey's Illinois).
Electoral College...Watch the left condemn it when THEY cannot exploit it!
George won the popular vote by millions last election...and still he "stole it!"...
Truth is! If you want to see theft...Vote for a low life socialist liberal!

2007-07-05 00:53:46 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

What you have asked here are two very different questions. Your first question seems to imply that something underhanded happened to elect George Bush. No evidence, other than unproven anecdotes, exists to support this idea. The 2000 election was close in Florida and even closer in New Mexico. The 2004 election wasn't even close--not even in Ohio where, you might have noticed, John Kerry declined to ask for a recount.

To answer your second question, no the system is not flawed. Most who say the system is flawed hang the flaw on the Electoral College when, in fact, the EC does precisely what the framers of the Constitution wanted it to do: make sure the votes in the smaller states are important. Dump the EC and go to a system where popular vote wins the day, and candidates will only have to campaign in New York, Miami, Los Angeles, Chicago, Baltimore, Cleveland, etc. Just look at a map of the county-by-county votes in 2000 (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap2000.htm) and you'll easily see what I'm talking about. Al Gore won the popular vote nationally, but taken county-by-county, George Bush won the popular vote in 2,439 counties to Al Gore's 674.

In short, the system is not flawed; rather, we haven't seen any outstanding candidates that either party of people support overwhelmingly. Want to increase voter turnout? Get better candidates!

2007-07-05 02:28:01 · answer #2 · answered by Phil N. D'Oval 2 · 1 0

The system works fine if people took the time to understand the concept. People do not elect a president their vote determines which delegates get to vote for the state in the electoral college because the president is elected by states not people. It is done this way for a reason. GW, like him or hate him, won two elections, neither was stolen and the facts support that reality. Every independent recount in Florida reaffirms his victory there. Gore wanted election law changed in the MIDDLE of an election. When has that ever been acceptable or legal? Never.

2007-07-05 02:29:36 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

President George W. Bush was elected by the Electoral College here in this country. And YES our voting system is flawed because we never get to hear from the different independent parties. There is no equality in our political process and the two main parties are blurred into a lesser of the two evils than who is the best person for the job.

2007-07-05 00:34:03 · answer #4 · answered by outlaw95205 2 · 1 1

On the surface, George Bush was "miselected" through a policy designed originally to ensure that the process could be safeguarded from what, at the time, were considered the "masses" (common citizens), who were deemed unfit to have final and absolute power to determine the officeholder of the presidency through popular vote.
This caveat is called the "electoral college", and it's still in effect. Each state "carries" a certain number of "electoral votes"-in theory, if the state's popular election (actual citizen's votes) goes to one candidate, that candidate then gets every one of the state's electoral votes (While this isn't guaranteed, it's been the tradition throughout national history).
Some states have more electoral votes than others. This is how George Bush managed to win enough votes (electoral votes) to cause the election to go to the supreme court for a decision, even though he didn't win by actual citizen's votes--he won a slight majority in some states that carried more electoral votes than states won by Gore...so he got all of those state's electoral votes, even though he might have only won the state by a few popular,"real" (citizen's) votes, and Gore won states by huge majorities of popular, "real" votes.
It was the number of electoral votes George won that caused the decision to go to the supreme court for a decision, despite Bush's not winning the actual popular election--actually not winning the election by a majority of citizen's votes. One of those states was Florida.
Florida's governor at the time was George Bush's brother, Jeb.
And when Florida went to Gore (along with its electoral votes, which gave Gore enough so that he would have won without question), Jeb (George's brother) decided that there needed to be a recount of votes in Florida.
He (or his employees) appointed people to count the ballots during that recount. These appointees said that ballots were "unclear"...he decided that these people should be the ones who interpreted who those ballots were for...
And after a long recount of thousands of votes--in which there was no oversight, or any uninterested third party overseeing the process--Jeb's appointees decided that George hadn't lost the election after all...that he'd actually WON!! By a few hundred votes!
This gave George Florida, and with it the electoral votes he needed to challenge Gore in the supreme court.
Oh, and by the way, though it didn't come to light until several years later...as it turned out, 600 blacks were barred from voting in Florida for being convicted felons...
when they actually weren't convicted felons, at all
If you consider the fact that blacks overwhelmingly vote democratic--those 600 votes, alone, would have won the election for Gore. He would have had Florida's electoral votes and a clear victory (and that's even after George's brother Jeb had his own appointees recount the votes).
Is the voting system flawed? Well, if you were a Republican, I guess you'd say it worked pretty well.

2007-07-05 02:41:06 · answer #5 · answered by Promicarus 2 · 0 0

What is so hard for people to understand about the us electoral process in this country? The United States of America is not meant to be a democracy people. Our founding fathers hated democracies and with good reason. Democracies always end up devouring themselves because they always end up as mob rule or rule through corruption like what you see in Latin America and most of the 3rd and developing world. Democracies die in extreme dysfunction. We are a representative constituional republic, or at least that is what we are supposed to be. However in many regards we now resemble a corrupt democracy more than we do a true republic. You can't think of it as one giant election to elect a president, but 50 separate elections. You wouldn't expect to be able to elect another states senators or congressmen, and you shouldn't be able to subvert their choice of a president simply because you come from a state with more population. The population disparities of states are addressed in the Legislative branch of government with the amount of representatives that each state is allocated to congress, not through the executive branch of government.

The issue is not with the system by design, but how certain elements of the process have been corrputed through special interest groups like AIPAC and big business with deep pockets with more political clout than the average citizen.The process is subverted by the MSM, and through the two headed monster known as the two party system. When the only choices you have are bad and the only candidates who have a shot at being elected thanks to the massive amounts of funding it takes to get elected in the televison age, are the "officially approved" one's, you are invariably going to end up with a bad egg every time. You are going to get a candidate who is bought and paid for by special interest groups before they ever even step foot in the oval office. They don't answer to the people or the constitution, because the people have very little political power. This is how a corrupt "democracy" works, and people only think they have any say in the process. The real wheels of power are always greesed by the money in such a situation. Those with the most money and power call all the shots. Remember in Soviet Russia and communist countries the line is always how free the people are. They even trot out an election from time to time with candidate A&B for the people to choose from, all the while praising the democratic process, while there is no real democracy at all. Candidate A is the same choice as candidate B. This is much the same way in which our system hs been subverted.

2007-07-05 01:56:59 · answer #6 · answered by Bobby the Brain 4 · 2 0

If it is flawed, it has been flawed for several years even when Democrat presidents were elected. I have no problem with people wanting to change the system, but all of a sudden now you want to change it?

2007-07-05 05:54:23 · answer #7 · answered by nubiangeek 6 · 0 0

American politics flawed? No freakin' way! He cheated .let's see daddy bush and brother Jeb? Jeb was governor of Florida where the voting machines supposedly malfunctioned:P Either way, Its ok George D dubya I won . His ignorance is much more amusing than Al Gores would have ever been . Besides W . did us all a huge favor. pretty much handing the white house to the democrats for at least the next decade .. hes irritated the citizens as bad as Nixon.. Yay ! for imbread hillbilly biggots!

2007-07-05 01:53:22 · answer #8 · answered by jimmy_lightfoot 1 · 0 1

We need to carefully review our election system. Proper counting of votes is essential to maintaining a democratic form of government.

In the case of the 2000 election, although Gore received more popular votes, the Electoral College system depended on the proper counting of votes in only one state—Florida. The NORC Florida Ballot Project found that if a statewide recount of Florida’s ballots had been undertaken using USSC-mandated standards, Gore would have won.

The Electoral College system is an antiquated level placed between the voters and their desired results. It is not likely, however, to be abolished because smaller states feel that it gives them more input.

Electronic voting machines were originally thought by some to be a method of accurately recording votes but it was found that the machines such as Diebold were easily hacked and there were often no verifiable paper backups to enable recounts.

2007-07-05 01:42:49 · answer #9 · answered by tribeca_belle 7 · 0 2

Very good question! but i think the best person to answer it, is fomer the U.S vice president, Mr Al Gore.
President Bush's election victory was determined by a rather hidden mechanism, that seemed to override the peoples votes. And as long as the peoples votes can be put aside by a small group, the U.S voting system is flawed.
strictly my opinion, there are no facts are there?
By the way, President Bush hasnt done too badly.

2007-07-05 02:07:26 · answer #10 · answered by kingsley o 1 · 0 2

He was elected not by popular vote, but by electoral votes. Florida was a catastrophe as far as working voting machines and not having proper voting ethics, and it just so happened to be in a state that George Bush's brother was Governor. I see this as the shoe horn to the presidency. Al Gore had 500,000 more votes that George bush in the popular vote.
If Al Gore was president we probably would not have gone to war with Iraq, and would have had strict gas mileage in new cars and alternative fuels by now. And saved 400 billion dollars and had a surplus.

2007-07-05 02:08:36 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

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