An Atheists minded questions to Christians!?

Question

What proof would you need to lose belief in the bible?
and how much further would you need to be pushed for you to become an atheist?

If you say nothing, thats saying if they could absolutely with no room for exceptions that it was completely a lie and fake... you still would believe in the bible!
or if they some how managed to prove the negative, that there wasn't a god, you'd still believe even if there wasn't proof!
Please don't go this way with answering it... i mean.. really how much would it take for you to lose your faith?

Answer 1

As a former Christian, I think most of the answers you'll get will be along the lines of "there is nothing that could shake my faith." It is only the last thing they would ever think of that isn't even a possiblity in their mind that would get them to realize.

Answer 2

I ususally avoid answers of this nature, simply because there are those on both sides who are adamant in their belief, and therefore any discussion with them becomes a one sided explanation and not a discussion. As one can see by many of the answers already here, these people of both sides have already visited. So, why should I answer?

There is a long answer by an obviously well educated person, which addresses the question quite effectively. This got me thinking, and so I (strangely) feel the need to express my opinion on what is normally a taboo topic of discussion.

Of course I belive in God. God is Love. I belive in Love, therefore I believe in God.

I DON'T belive in Church. The bible is a wonderful collection of stories and parables showing that it's a good idea to be nice to each other. It WAS written onto the page by Man. And no matter his intent, Man will embellish and misremember for his own benefit. I understand the Quaran is of a different aspect in Islam, and is held to be the Word of God manifested. (if I misinterpret, please forgive me, my intent is not to harm).

This all comes back again; I belive in God. I believe in Love. The Church is not God. God has no need of my tithe, or my weekly/daily prayer. I love all the time. I keep that in my heart, and God is there. I don't need a building or anything more than my heart and those around me, where ever I am.

Faith is not easy. It's hard to Love all the time. But I try. That's all one can be expected to do.

(this is a little off topic to the question of Aethism, but again; God is Love, and if you need an old guy in a big throne in the clouds to tell you to be nice and play fair... well, at least you're being nice...)

Answer 3

I cannot think of any proof at all.

Let me illustrate by stating the reverse:

Saul was a persecutor of Christians - he went after Christians, arrested them and persecuted them. One day, God appeared before him while he was on the road (was it to Damascus?), and thereafter, he became St Paul.

For someone who was actively right on the other side of the fence, Saul became the author of a book included in the bible.

Now, tell me, an atheist does not believe in God - how is an atheist going to convince a Christian who does?

Offer a Christian something of the same scale as happened with Saul - can an atheist do that? I don't think it's possible.

The only 'proof' I can think of is that God will appear before a Christian and tells him there is no God - ? hmmm...begs the imagination and logic........

Additional:

I can't understand what you are getting at, really. Are you trying to find a reason for a Christian to lose his faith? There are Christians who became Atheist - I think you ought to ask them the reason they became Atheist. For existing Christians who have no reason to lose their belief and faith...there is simply no reason.

One needs to understand that most instances, the flow is the other way around - Atheists become Christian. From a position of non believer in a God, they become a believer in the existence of a God, which to my mind is far simpler a state of being.

Look at it this way - how does an Atheist explain the existence of the universe? Doesn't science and logic dictates a 'causative' state? ie there must be a cause for everything - a leaf falls - *caused* by decay; the branches shake - *caused* by the wind; the wind blows, *caused* by weather conditions..and so on. The universe is, *caused* by......?

Call it what you will, 'God', 'Nature', 'Higher Power', etc - there ought to be a *cause* which brought the universe into existence, isn't it?

Otoh, you are asking why a believer in God would move away from that position - a believer would have experienced the presence/existence of God, so it is very mighty difficult to move away from that, friend.

Answer 4

Moot point,,,,,there is no proof.
In order to state that there is no proof for God's existence, you would have to know all alleged proofs that exist in order to then state that there is no proof for God's existence. But, since you cannot know all things, you can't logically state there is no proof for God's existence.


You can only state that of all the alleged proofs you've seen thus far, none have worked. You say that you believe there are no proofs for God's existence. But then, this means that there is the possibility that there is a proof or proofs out there and that you've not yet encountered one.


If there was a proof that truly did prove God's existence, would you be able to accept it given that you presuppose that there is no God?

You cannot know all of the evidence, since you are not all-knowing. Is your criteria for evidence reasonable?


Does your criteria put a requirement upon God (if He exists) that is not realistic? For example

Do you want Him to appear before you in blazing glory?

Even if that did happen, would you believe he existed or would you consider it a hallucination of some sort or a trick played on you?
How would you know?
Does your criteria put a requirement on logic that is not realistic?

Do you want him to make square circles, or some other self-contradictory phenomena or make a rock so big He cannot pick it up?
If God exists, the laws of logic would be a product of his nature since he is absolute, transcendent, and truth (logical absolutes are conceptual, absolute, and transcendent, which reflect a logical, absolute, and transcendent mind). He did not create the laws of logic. We simply recognize them because God exists. Therefore, God cannot violate those laws because he would violate his own nature -- which he cannot do.

When you can unequivocally prove all of that, I will be happy to consider your question.

Answer 5

I will never lose my faith. Seriously. I believe that man is fallible and God is infallible - so no matter how it looked, I would always believe God over a human being.

You'd be surprised how many times something has been said to be wrong or impossible - and then is proved otherwise fifty years later.

By saying it was proven wrong, you would be saying that man has acquired all the knowledge that there is to learn, that we have achieved the ultimate in every area. And that will never be true.

Answer 6

No man can make me believe my God lies, The Bible is God's word and God is the truth.
You or anyone else can not prove the Bible is not true or you can not prove that God dose not exists.
You will never push me in becoming an atheist even if it meant my life, I know who I will be going home to.

Answer 7

the fact that every time someone tried to disprove the bible over the centuries it has not been done. hundreds of years of trying and not one successful attempt.
read the book (the case for CHRIST by lee strobel) He was an athiest lawyer and news paper editor who set out to disprove the bible and after all his research he came into a personal relationship with our LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST..

i ask you : what will it take for you to belive the bible ? JESUS said "seek and you will find , knock and it will be opened to you " Matthew 7:7

wide is the gate the gate that leads to destruction many will enter it ; narrow is the gate that leads to life , few will find it. Matthew 7:13-14

JESUS said " unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of GOD. john 3:3

Q: what gate are you gonna enter through?

Answer 8

In order for me to loose faith in the Bible, you would have to prove to me that all Humankind started life as amino acids. You would also have to show me evidence linking humans to each evolutionary stage thereafter.

If you could do that then I might think about becoming an atheist.

Answer 9

I don't think it's possible. It'd be like trying to tell someone that an orange isn't actually orange coloured. Christians don't just know about Jesus, they know him personally. The Christian worldview is also supported by all honest science and personal experience. We would need to be living in a different world to believe anything else.

Answer 10

My beliefs are not centered around a book, they are centered around my experiences. I was an atheist, nothing wrong with it, but atheism was not the way I wanted to live my life. There is no meaning in it, no truth.