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Free-will obviously allows man to choose alternatives to being good and doing right.....aren't the alternatives to good and right known as "evil, sin & wrong"?

I appreciate everyone's answers. But none of you answered this simple question.

As far as God wanting "robots"....well didn't he demand unquestioned obedience from Adam & Eve?
Aren't the Ten Commandments....ahhhh. ...commandments?
Aren't all the edicts of the Bible known as "laws of God" that must be obeyed?...with the penalty eternal damnation and suffering?

BTW I see robots very much in God's vision. I see robots in the American Christian Taliban and the Islamic Fundamentalist Jihad suicide terrorists. I see Rush Limbaugh dittoheads and 700 Club robots everywhere....I see robots in the Branch Davidians and the FBI-ATF agents. I see robots in the US military and the insurgents in Iraq...in fact I see robots everywhere..what they have in common ...is they all think THEY are God's robots.

Answer 1

I think you are thinking too hard. You need a rest. Just lean back and repeat after me: There is no god, never was, never will be.

Answer 2

You see the problem with most cultural devices as well as societal devices for controlling behavior is that they are more flexible than they are seen to be. Using you're biblical example, yes the commandments and such are known to be the laws of God, to those who believe it. However, barring two or three of the commandments, they simply outline what is generally accepted as what the moral individual is, i.e. that they don't harm anyone without reason. Every religion contains such guidelines, even atheism for the most part. So the contrary to moral is obviously immoral, i.e. they hurt people willingly. So obviously the immoral person is going to be looked down upon. However, moral and immoral are both labels come up with by society to describe behavior. And elsewhere there may very well be a society where the roles are reversed.

Now addressing the robots point, there are extremists in every faculty of life. These "robots" as you call them are human beings who for one reason or another decided at some point they wanted to believe what they believe to the extent they believe it. This however does not bar the freedom of choice inherent in all human beings. They just choose to do what they want. Robots are devoid of this choice. Now coercion and brainwashing may be used, the latter actually resulting in what would basically be a robot, but these are outside forces which force a decision or give higher precedence to it and are not natural to anyone's thought process.

Answer 3

God does not want robots. God simply wants us. Our sins and all...each and every one of us.


take care :)

dan


I believe the best any of us can do is what we believe is right. No matter who you serve. To do anything else would be... Well...wrong.

The trick comes when in identifying "what" it is that is the "right" choice. It's a decision that I believe we are all free to make, even if few of us make it alone. But who am I to say how someone else should make this decision? After all...I may very well be wrong myself.

But I can only act upon myself...just as I cannot judge another for what I believe. Because after all...who am I?

Answer 4

My friend God is not looking for robots He is looking for fellowship! Adam and Eve were in PARADISE. Eve was gorgeous and Adam was handsome. God came down and communed with them on the regular basis imparting all kinds of wisdom. Even the animals were at peace with them. Satan used His renown charm to make Adam and Eve think that they would become like God if they ate the forbidden fruit. The serious flaw in Satan's argument is Adam and Eve were ALREADY like God. All that Satan did was steal the earth from Adam and bring the curse down on humanity. This has brought out the worst in mankind causing wars, family breakups, murder and deadly jealousy. Now God has to manage this mess with OUR free will.

Answer 5

I believe in the Old Religion. Read Mists of Avalon and learn another perspective.

Men wrote the bible. What women wrote was discounted and not included. Eve was not the first woman but the second after Lilith who refused to be Adams slave.

The Godess and God want us to be happy, to do what brings us joy. For some that may be working for the FBI. To each her/his own.

Answer 6

but those American Robots are robots by choice.... If God took away free will they wouldn't be able to stop being a robot, even if they questioned God.

see the difference? God never demanded unquestioned obedience.... not from us, we're allowed to question and even disbelieve... it's free will.

A sin is a willful disobedient action from God, it's a sin to hurt yourself, and to hurt others.

God did not create evil. He is all that is good, so anything that isn't in him is inherently evil... b/c it is not of God.

Answer 7

there are ethical wordings such as honor and doing what i best and ofcourse if wrong is an act of ignorance is it still a sin where there is no guilt involved? the choices in life are not always so cut and dry and sometimes we are faced with no choice other than the lesser of two evils . If you believe in a god then why did he not equip us with all the answers and why did he create evil in the first place?
peace is a choice

Answer 8

The Ten Commandments and the "laws of God" were in the Old Testament. The New Covenant did away with most of those laws in the New Testament.

As far as laws that must be obeyed with threat of penalties, there aren't any as long as you accept Jesus as your Savior, confess your sins, and ask forgivesness.

Answer 9

--- MORALITY IS A PERCEPTION ---

We (everyone) seek to make decisions on whether or not an act is good (right) or evil (wrong) by basing it on what we 'perceive' as good and evil;...
... that is, - on what we see as giving us pleasure and/or allowing us to avoid displeasure.

However, - mankind has developed 'expectations' from those within a family, clan, tribe, etc.,...
... as these expectations, in some way, contribute to the ensurance of the group's survival ;...
... a typical "herd" mentality.

Over time, - these expectations became more defined as groups merged with one another and are now recognized by labels such as "traditions", "customs" and,..."LAWS".

In this, it is no coincidence that many of our laws are based in holy writs (the Holy Bible's "10 Commandments" being a prime example of such a writ).

So you see,...
... it is the implementation of LAWS which have had a 'conditioning' effect on man;
--- allowing most of us the choice to avoid the possibility of displeasure (punishment) by curbing those natural 'pleasure-seeking' drives which have been deemed illegal (read "illegal" as "evil") by those societies which we choose to interact with.

The differing perceptions of 'right' and 'wrong' are intriguingly addressed by Nietzsche in this excerpt from his book HUMAN, ALL TOO HUMAN:
---"... No cruel man is SO cruel as he whom he has misused believes; the idea of pain is not the same thing as the suffering of it. The same applies to the unjust judge, to the journalist who misleads public opinion with petty untruths. Cause and effect are in all these cases surrounded by quite different groups of thoughts and sensations; while one involuntarily presupposes that doer and sufferer think and feel the same and, in accordance with this presupposition, assesses the guilt of the one by the pain of the other." ---

I wholeheartedly agree with this...
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Answer 10

Commandments(laws) are for people who do not automatically do those things. "the law is for the lawless". God wants people with a new heart that it is their nature to do the right thing(love). He gives this new nature. He doesn't create robots.

Answer 11

You need to quit comparing religious zealots to robots.

Robots base their actions on logic and sensory input from the real world. Religious zealots base theirs on unsubstantiated faith in a different one.

Your comparison is insulting the robots.