Do you know that they are now going to start putting these in all babys.While the NAIS remains voluntary on a federal level, and there is no formal people identification system as yet, both executives are moving aggressively to position their companies for the day when chips in animals and people are the norm rather than the exception.
Did you know...in Sweden, Prime Minister Olof Palme gave permission in 1973 to implant prisoners, and Data Inspection's ex-Director General Jan Freese revealed that nursing-home patients were implanted in the mid-1980s.
The National Animal Identification System (NAIS) is set up to put RFID tags in all livestock. This means total surveillance of all livestock. It is mandatory by January 2008. This means if you have one chicken, one horse, one cow, one sheep, one goat, one bison, one sheep, one goat, one llama, one alpaca, one turkey, or one duck, etc - you must register, the premises and the animals.
Are you aware?How do you feel about it?
2007-07-04
07:41:10
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Do you understand the meaning? Does it scare you? Please share your thoughts on this matter? Does it pertain to scriputre?
2007-07-04
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I do not watch the 700 club. anyway what I want to know is how does this make you feel that this is a movement in the mix right now. Christians does this make you think about the scriptures. If you are non-belivers how do you feel about haveing a Human identification Tag.
The old Big Brother is Watching you. Is this a violation to our rights. Is there anything we can do to stop the movement
2007-07-04
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Hi ^^
Yes I have heard of this. I understand it is going to mandatory on all living animals. Many legislation are trying to fight the ones on humans and so far some have succeed. But, that is in America. One company is called “Digital Angel”: technology that cares. Can you belive that.
But, alot of this type of the times when ministers talk about the end times that are coming. It is a bull dog meathod to keep people in the church because they are scared to be left behind. I remember back in 1989 or 90. It became very wide spread the end of the world was here. That the rapture was going to happen it was time to repent for our sins. It takes a shock like this to get some people to see the errors of their ways and walk a closer walk with God. I never saw so many churches full with people. They were flocking to church. It was crazy.
But back to the topic. Also alot of parents are having the implant placed in their children voluntarily because these are scary times for people. It is not yet mandatory. The mandatory human identification tag law did not pass. So here we sit it is only a matter of time before it will happen.Look at alot of the other laws that kept being pressed and now are a law.
Here is some scriptures about this subject I do not know if it is the one you have in mind.
"And he caused all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:" "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."Revelation 13:16-17"
Mark" means, literally, "graven." It conveys the sense of being "branded." But remember in the old testament it meant different things The custom of the Hebrews, when they took a slave for life, was to mark them by driving an awl through their ear. (see Exodus 21v.6) In John's time the slaves were branded by their owners in a similar manner.Many currently worry that they will accept the mark accidentally, such as the case with national ID cards. This is not so. To accept the mark of the beast, one will knowingly agree to renounce God and to accept this mark. Without the mark, no one will be able to buy or sell and will fear they and/or their family will die. But to accept the mark means eternal death. This one is already out on the market a tag that is so you can buy things.But not the one described in the bible.
The human identification is and could be a step in this direction but it is not clear. For now it is all speculation and really isn't something to worrie about k. Just remember There are many views on what the 666 stands for but no where is it given in the bible as to what it means exactly. The mark the people receive seems to be a different stature then the marking of the beast.
Hope this helps
Your sister in Christ
2007-07-05 14:34:30
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answered by Anonymous
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Wow, never heard about it, where did you get that info?
But with all the international networking via the Internet, one could suspect that would be the next step. Just look how you can now purchase things internationally with a credit card--that's already a tag on you.
I believe that would be the start to the Mark of the Beast as described in Rev. 13:16-17 "He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name."
But what should be our response as followers of Jesus?
As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" Jesus answered: "WATCH OUT THAT NO ONE DECEIVES YOU. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ, ‘and will deceive many.You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but SEE TO IT THAT YOU ARE NOT ALARMED. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains."
So, our focus needs to be on our DAILY relationship with Jesus and being obedient to what He tells us. Then we have nothing to fear.
2007-07-04 08:14:58
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answered by Friend of Jesus 4
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This is a violation on our rights. The only ones this should be put in our the child molesters those that harm women and children for sure.
Don't you hate when people do not answer something and badger you because of the question.
I give people a hard time.
That devil dress thing is a flipping nut job so don't mind her. Who ever gave her a computer most likely did it to keep her on the computer and out of the lives of those around her.
ha ha
2007-07-04 07:57:46
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes The New World order is here already and that identification is scriptural... the rise of the Antichrist, the "mark of the beast" those who take it will be condemned to hell with the looser Satan. Not only will they know what animals you have but what you buy, when and how often... your every single move!!. they own you and everything thing about it, really they already know these things. This is just the beginning of whats to be, soon we wont be able to be here on this site. But like i said that has already crept into our lives. How do i feel about it? well id say Praise God!! bad times on this earth are going to be happening but those who belong to Christ Jesus will be having the final Victory....i know and see that spirit of Antichrist on many within this site but Jesus is real, his promises are real and he every bit worth it...consider his way
2007-07-04 08:26:55
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answered by Bought & paid for!! 2
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I do not believe that it has anything to do with the bible.
Dogs for identification have chips in their ears and it helps to get your pet back if it is lost which to me is a good thing.
I do think that to many people are stealing others ID.
Checks and credit cards. I think a better solution is to require a pin number with the credit card. We have to use pass words to even read our E mail.
Most people anymore bank on line. it is safer and for shut in s invaluable. The check automatically goes into the bank and the bills including the credit card is paid automatically.
If you want to pay more simply go on line and do so.
By using the credit card you don't lose checks or cash.
But, my problem is that when I used the credit card to buy gas they never asked for my pin number.
That frightened me! What if I lost my credit card someone else could use it. But a computer chip so I wouldn't lose my credit card that is a great idea.
2007-07-04 07:59:29
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answered by Ruth 6
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We are getting closer... It does scare me..and no I was not aware this was going on. I looked up NAIS oh man NAIS - National Animal Identification System..wow..that is to say the least bizarre. I would love to know some Scriptures that relate to this.. do you know of any?
2007-07-04 08:02:57
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answered by Sprinkles C 3
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I've seen answers about identity theft and how this would prevent it.
All the criminal would have to do is kill you and remove the chip from you.
To cover a murder--remove the chip--who could find the body them? They would only find the chip--at the bottom of the ocean. But not before they emptied out all of your financial accounts.
How would this solve anything?
2007-07-04 08:14:55
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hear is a news clip you might find interesting along the same line
Is the national ID card the next step toward the imposition of the biblical "mark of the beast" Christians believe will be required to buy and sell during the Last Days?
That's the contention of a growing group of believers who are working to turn back the approval of the Real ID Act by Congress last year. Public Law 109-13 requires the national ID portion of the plan go into effect by May 2008
.Ron strom/ net daly
"There is a prophecy in the Bible that foretells a time when every person will be required to have a mark or a number, without which he or she will not be able to participate in the economy," states the Christian website NoNationalID.com. "The prophecy is 2,000 years old, but it has been impossible for it to come to pass until now. With the invention of the computer and the Internet, this prophecy of buying and selling, using a number, can now be implemented at any time. Has the time for the fulfillment of this prophecy arrived?"
The site asks visitors to sign an online petition vowing not to vote for any candidate who does not commit to repealing the Real ID Act.
The goal, states the site, which is sponsored by Endtime Ministries, is to get 100,000 signatures on the petition.
On the site is a link to purchase a DVD entitled "666 – How Close? Will the National ID Become the Mark of the Beast?"
Americans choosing not to carry a national ID, the site warns, will be prohibited from driving a car, boarding a plane, train or bus, entering any federal building, opening a bank account, or possibly from holding a job.
"This is probably our last chance to head off the mechanism before it is actually implemented as the mark," states the site in the FAQ section. "It truly may be now or never."
The Real ID Act requires states to participate in a federal data-sharing program when issuing driver's licenses, making those licenses de facto national ID cards.
Touted as a tool of the war on terrorism, the ID card provision of the law, which also includes border-security measures, has attracted the most negative attention.
After May 11, 2008, "a federal agency may not accept, for any official purpose, a driver's license or identification card issued by a State to any person unless the State is meeting the requirements" specified in the Real ID Act. While states can issue non-federal ID cards, they would not be accepted by the Transportation Security Administration for travel purposes, grounding those who don't carry federally approved cards.
The data required to be included in each card are, among other things, the person's full legal name, date of birth, gender, driver's license number, a digital photo, the person's address and machine-readable technology so the information can be ready easily by government or banking personnel.
Each state must agree to share the data on the cards with every other state.
Supporters of the law say it does not require a "national" ID card because each state issues its own cards, not the federal government. But detractors note the cards are virtual national IDs since the federal law has dictated what data must be included and that each state must share its database with the others.
The New Hampshire Senate yesterday voted to reject a bill to rebel against the Real ID system and not participate in a pilot program for which the state had been tapped. The state House of Representatives passed the measure last month, but the Senate instead voted to study the driver's license requirements.
U.S. Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., is urging his home state to give Real ID a try, saying it's needed to keep terrorists and illegal aliens from entering the country.
According to the Manchester Union Leader, Gregg argues that New Hampshire residents will find it difficult to get on airplanes or enter federal buildings if New Hampshire doesn't embrace Real ID.
Groups opposed to the Real ID Act are making strange bedfellows, with Christians like those running NoNationalID.com fighting on the same side with the American Civil Liberties Union, which sponsors the website RealNightmare.org.
The ACLU site decries the fact that a motor vehicles department staff person will be required to ask for immigration-status papers from those applying for driver's licenses.
"REAL ID will inevitably cause discrimination against U.S. citizens who may 'look' or 'sound' foreign to a DMV bureaucrat," states the site. "REAL ID requires DMV employees to decide whether someone is a citizen or foreigner before issuing a driver's license. The law demands that DMV bureaucrats distinguish among citizens, permanent resident immigrants and other non-citizens in deciding who is eligible for a license and what type of license may be issued.
"Based on past experience when similar requirements were imposed on employers, widespread discrimination resulted against citizens who 'looked' or 'sounded' foreign."
The civil-liberties group also slams a requirement of the law that some immigrants be issued a temporary "tier-two" license that has a prominent expiration date.
U.S. governors also have come out against the law, saying it is a huge unfunded mandate imposed on the nation's states.
The National Conference of State Legislatures is equally opposed to the Real ID Act, saying, "Federal legislators and rule makers are negating state driver's license security efforts, imposing difficult-to-comply-with mandates and limiting their flexibility to address new concerns as they arise. In other words, decades of state experience is being substituted for a 'command and control regime' from a level of government that has no driver's license regulatory experience."
Endtime Ministries' Irvin Baxter, a radio host, believes the national ID is a precursor to the forced embedding of radio-frequency chips under the skin.
Baxter told the Concorde, N.H., Monitor: "That's where we are headed right now. The prophecy states that you will have to receive a mark on your hand or in your forehead."
Ron strom/ world net daly
2007-07-04 08:05:42
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Placing tags, or computer chips in or on people would be about the only reason why I would go to war to stop.
It is the Mark of the Beast and condemns people to hell without a chance to repent. I sure would not allow them to place them on my child, they would be in for a fight if they tried.
2007-07-04 07:54:42
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answered by Anonymous
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I have heard nothing about this.
If it's true, I won't get the tag, I'll tell the feds where they can stick it.
I think it's probably the mark of the beast from revelations.
2007-07-04 07:50:00
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