Atheism makes no sense?

Question

Why would have a belief system to something that you say in the first instance doesn't exist? That's very silly. That's like me saying I'm antisantaclausism or I'm a antitoothfairiest.

An atheist whole belief system is based on something they say doesn't exist. I think just by pure implication, atheism actually points to the existence of God.

Back in the day when someone believed that the earth was flat, that belief was based on something that did exist, namely the earth.

When atheist say they don't believe in God or they don't have any god beliefs, they are supporting the existence of God. An atheist by definition is defined by God. You couldn't have an atheist if God doesn't exist.

Answer 1

your exactly right. i agree 100%. there is a GOD!!! they think that we came into this world from NOTHING. im a christian....meaning im against atheism.

Answer 2

Please consider that what you have said is that because someone does not believe in something, that something is thereby proven to exist.
Atheism is not a "belief system", it's merely disbelief in a particular idea. You've answered your own question. No one believes in the tooth fairy, and likewise no one considers not believing in the tooth fairy a "belief system", which you equate to a religion. Neither is not believing in god a religion. Following your logic, not believing in the tooth fairy "actually points to the existence" of the tooth fairy.
I don't exactly understand the point of the line about people believing the earth was flat. It could easily be used as an example of an incorrect idea based on limited observation and compared to religion on that basis- i.e., that religions originated and originate because of human ignorance, not because of any external supernatural forces.
Your argument is the same one that has been made on here many times, namely, that because god's existence cannot be disproven, the unbeliever bears the burden of proof. The response to that is just what I've said- that it must then be proven that everything which can be imagined must be proven not to exist, such as the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, etc., etc.

Answer 3

I can tell you put a lot of thought into your question, but from my perspective, I would align Christians with those who claimed the earth was flat. They ignored science and believed in an unsubstantiated theory. Also, the actual existence of Earth was never up for debate.

Antisantaclausism...I like that. A religion based on the belief that we shouldn't have a holiday that celebrates capitalism.

Answer 4

Atheism isn't a "belief system." It consists of one factor and one factor only- the atheist doesn't believe in any gods.

I am an atheist and an aclausian and an adentalfairyist. I don't believe in any gods, I don't believe in santa claus, I don't believe in the tooth fairy. But since nobody asks me to come up with a label to quickly give my position on the tooth fairy I don't have to use that term. If people would stop talking about religion, I wouldn't have to use the word atheist anymore.

To say that I don't believe in any gods means that the gods I don't believe in actually must exist is as silly as to say that since I say I don't believe in Santa, Santa Claus must be real. What must exist for me to say I don't believe in any gods is simply the concept of a god, not the actual thing. If there was no concept of the tooth fairy, I couldn't say that I don't believe in the tooth fairy. The tooth fairy need not exist in order for me not to believe in it. Do you really think that the Tooth Fairy is real just because you don't believe in the Tooth Fairy? I have a difficult time thinking that you really believe this argument yourself.

Answer 5

It actually does.
Your theory on atheists not being able to be atheists if it weren't for God is flawed. You need to look up the definition for atheist.

"Atheism, as a philosophical view, is the position that either affirms the nonexistence of gods or rejects theism. When defined more broadly, atheism is the absence of belief in deities, alternatively called nontheism. Although atheists are commonly assumed to be irreligious, some religions, such as Buddhism, have been characterized as atheistic.
Many self-described atheists are skeptical of all supernatural beings and cite a lack of empirical evidence for the existence of deities. Others argue for atheism on philosophical, social or historical grounds. Although many self-described atheists tend toward secular philosophies such as humanism and naturalism, there is no one ideology or set of behaviors to which all atheists adhere.
The term atheism originated as a pejorative epithet applied to any person or belief in conflict with established religion. With the spread of freethought, scientific skepticism, and criticism of religion, the term began to gather a more specific meaning and was sometimes used as a self-description by atheists"

The only way you'll ever understand an atheists "beief system" is by asking them and actually listening to them.

"Theism is the belief in the existence of one or more divinities or deities.
There is also a narrower sense in which theism refers to the belief that one or more divinities are immanent in the world, yet transcend it, along with the idea that divinity(s) is/are omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent.
The term is attested in English from 1678, and was probably coined to contrast with atheism, a term that is attested from ca. 1587 (see the etymology section of atheism for details)."



"Faith has two general implications which can be implied either exclusively or mutually:
To Trust:
Believing a certain variable will act or has the potential to act a specific way despite the potential influence and probability of known or unknown change.
To have faith in ones spouse that he/she will keep a promise of commitment
To have faith that the world will someday be peaceful
To have faith in a person to pay you back
To believe without reason:
Believing impulsively, or believing based upon personal hopes
In either case, Faith is based upon the interpretation of the intangible (feelings, emotions, etc.) instead of the physically tangible and is primarily associated with religion in modern times."


"Back in the day when someone believed that the earth was flat, that belief was based on something that did exist, namely the earth." Just in case you missed it; "Believing impulsively, or believing based upon personal hopes
In either case, Faith is based upon the interpretation of the intangible (feelings, emotions, etc.) instead of the physically tangible and is primarily associated with religion in modern times"

Answer 6

Atheism isn't really a whole belief system. It's just that one belief. It avoids that wondrous inverted pyramid that Christians or Muslims have built on the (unsubstantiated) claim that god exists at all. You know the one I mean. The one that starts with "there's a god" and ends with "and therefore eating pork or shellfish is an abomination".

Answer 7

That's pretty lame. Sorry. Atheism is the belief that there is no God. They can only believe it because the belief in God has been there for so long. They wouldn't have to even think of it if no one else did believe. Your logic is exceptionally stupid.

Answer 8

Should I put it in a positive way?

Atheism is the belief that the Universe exists and functions with out the intervention of deities and the supernatural.

basically that everything in the Universe is based natural on natural law.


Dose it make sense now?

Answer 9

I have no problem with anyone stating "I believe there is no God" if that's what they believe. What I have a problem with are statements such as "There is a God" or There is no God" without backing that statement up with tangible proof.

I don't agree with your assessment that atheism points to the existence of God. How can atheists point to the existence of something in which they didn't believe existed in the first place?

Answer 10

The question is flawed. Atheism is not a belief system. It is a response to religious nonsense. There are no atoothfairiests because no one has ever tried to pawn their morality off on other people in the name of the tooth fairy.

Answer 11

The argument is hopelessly silly. Do you believe in pink unicorns? You can certainly conceive of such a thing, as can I, but that does not give them any actual existence, any more than a concept of god gives that any actual existence.