does anyone else see how blatantly wrong the trinity doctrine is?

Question

the bible screams to me that almighty god and jesus christ are two seperate individuals just as you and me or a father and a son. both while he was on earth and in heaven. does it to you too?

jesus never said he was equal to his father. said they were one. just as you and your wife/husband/someone your with a lot would become one in thought and intention. jesus always showed subjection to his father.

quit feeding me jibberish. why make it harder then it is?! you force this "hard to explain concept" onto people when believing they are seperate is so totally simple. daniel 10:13,14 clearly shows jesus being given power by his father. a totally seperate being. this is while he was in heaven.

Answer 1

There is no such thing as the Trinity, This is largest lie that Satan uses to keep people from knowing who the True God is, if he can do this, he's got you.

.He has cleverly kept a large proportion of mankind in darkness by means of false religion, making them think that they are serving God. Lacking in accurate knowledge of God and in love for truth, they may be attracted by mystical and emotional religious services or be impressed by powerful works.

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God?

Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows?

1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice.

Jesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,

Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;


Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, why did God have to give the revelation to Jesus, if he is God? .

Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)

John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven.

A person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.

Answer 2

John 14:28 says the father is a higher being then the son.

1 Corinthians 11:3 says the father is a higher God then the son.

Thus no trinity.

Answer 3

You have God the Father
................God the Son
.................God the Holy Spirit

God the father seeing humanity dying, had to send his Son, Jesus to save the world from sin...sin is anything not Holy to God.
In order for God to reconnect us back to him, he had to have a clean sacrifice, without sin.

And after He ascended, Jesus, he promised he would bring us His Spirit, to guide us...so we are never alone.

Its not wrong, you just dont see the forest for the tree.

How bout this, America in many forms. Called America, called the United States, called North America, called the U.S...now ya getting it?
One country, yet 50 states, countless counties, a mirage of folks, yet under one government, one continent..yet we are all seperate and lead our lives, yet we are all Americans, legal perspective of course.

When you were born, you had 3 sides, but the third side was spiritually dead.

Adam and Eve had the spiritual side disconnected after they disobeyed God.
Thats what being reborn is about.
In order to get connected back to God, your spirit has to be reborn, only thru Jesus...he is the ONLY link.

Lots of folks dont know they are unplugged.
Thats what spiritually dead is about.

Your going to die on earth, but your spirit hopefully reborn goes back home to Heaven, were you were first thought of by God.

We are appointed once to die, but we can live forever spiritually, if we are plugged back into God by his Son.

You cant have a 3 prong in a 2 prong outlet, you need an adapter!
And not every adapter is right, all roads dont lead to God, he says so.

Good luck in your reading, God bless

Answer 4

I completely agree with you. To whom did Jesus pray while on the Cross? He clearly prayed to his Heavenly Father "Father take this cup from me" - It makes no sense that he'd pray to himself. The same could be said of his time in the Garden - He prayed .... to whom...?? His Father, of course.

When Jesus was being baptized, God's voice was heard saying "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased" - Was Jesus throwing his voice?

Hm.... definitely separate beings, unified in purpose.

Answer 5

YES, I know it is wrong. When Jesus was praying who was he praying to ,himself? When Jesus was on the cross and said "father forgive them as they do know what they are doing", who was he saying that to, himself again? and it goes on and on.

Answer 6

Yep. There's only ONE GOD and that is God the Father. IF THE TRINITY IS TRUE THEN HOW COME JESUS SPEAKS TO GOD THE FATHER?? IF HE AND GOD'S JUST ONE then no need to talk to each other right??

Who is the only God introduced by CHRIST? The Savior Himself stated:

"Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said:"Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You... And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent'." (Jn. 17:1, 3 NKJV)

Christ introduced the Father in heaven as the only true God. On the other hand, He (Christ) introduced Himself as sent by God--not a co-person of God. By calling the Father as the ONLY true God, Christ Himself prove that He is not God.

Even the APOSTLES recognized only one God, the Father, and never made mention of one God consisting of three persons:

"For there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),

"Yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live." (I Cor. :5-6, NKJV)

The only true God taught by Christ and the apostles is the Father in heaven. They did not include the Son and the Holy Spirit. But, it is not surprising that there are those who teach other gods besides the Father... PAGANS HAVE BEEN TEACHING THIS FOREVER!

The true God : The Father Who created all things is the only true God. There are no three persons in one God; thus, reject the belief in the so-called Trinity. The Bible also prohibits worship of images or idolatry!!! CATHOLICS WORSHIP WOODEN IMAGES!!

Yeah go ahead and rate me down.. can't accept the truth yeah???

If your house is burning, BUT YOU LOVE YOUR HOUSE SO DEARLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU GREW UP.... wouldn't you leave it??

same as being catholic. IT"S SO WRONG but you love it dearly because thats what you've been believing since you were wrong.. WHY NOT LEAVE while you still have the chance??

Answer 7

Yes it does.
And when the dust settles on that issue please reconsider the whole concept of original sin.
It sure makes God look stupid, doesn't it?
It's like saying, "I used to like my neighbor and he used to come to my house. I told him not to look in the laundry room but he did and now he can't come to my house unless I send my son over so my neighbor can kill him. If that happens then I'll talk to my neighbor again and he can come over."

Answer 8

The father, the son and the holy ghost are all one of the same. See when most of church's, like the Catholic church when they pulled away from the original first church, wrote their own doctrinrs, but many kept the trinity doctrine, although they misuse it. It says in the bible that you must be baptized, by being completely sumersed underwater, ( not sprinkled) in the name of jesus...the father, the son, and the holy ghost. Many ppl I believe mis understand what that means...Just like you and I, we all have titles, I am a mother, a sister, a daughter...but I have only one name, which is Gina. This is the same with Jesus..he has many titles...the father, the son , the holy ghost...but thoses three are just titles.....he only has one name...and that is Jesus...that's why the bible says you must pray in his name......" In Jesus name I pray, Amen"

Answer 9

The trinity is very difficult to grasp, but I believe that God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the Trinity. The Trinity can be explained or compared to H2O..H2O can be in three forms, water, ice and vapor. Each person of the Trinity has it's own form and purpose, but are the same.

Answer 10

No, the Trinity Doctrine makes perfect sense to me.
As a means of bringing God to Earth, to live among mankind, in fulfillment of the Old Testament texts, God "begat" Jesus.
A spiritual God sends Himself in human form.