Calvinistic Baptist
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Arminian Baptist
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2007-07-03
15:40:09
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Perseverence of the Saints (Eternal Security for Genuine Believers) is Calvinistic. ^_^
2007-07-03
15:55:11 ·
update #1
Arminianism however believes that God (being mostknowing) foreknew who will be saved and who are not.
Those He knew will be saved is considered as the elected/predestined ones.
2007-07-03
16:12:06 ·
update #2
http://baptist2baptist.net/b2barticle.asp?ID=291
Very interesting Baptist leaders discussion on Calvinstic Baptist vs. Arminian Baptist.
^_^
2007-07-03
16:13:54 ·
update #3
Basically Calvinist.
I don't think that there is any Baptist church that believes that a truly saved person will fall back into sin to the point of committing apostasy, and thus losing his salvation.
2007-07-03 15:49:18
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answer #1
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answered by Randy G 7
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In the beginning Baptist conception, not FWB, but just Baptist, their belief system was Calvinistic without apology.
You will find a few Southern Baptist groups that still hold to a few of the teachings of Calvin still today, but like most Indy Baptist Churches, they have left the heretical teaching of Calvin and lean more toward Armenianism. But those in the Indy and Southern Baptist world that lean Armenian still do not go as far as believing one can lose his or her salvation.
For them, "free will" is but the ability to chose to get saved to start with, choose how to live ones live after salvation, and "free will" is the determining factor as how close of a walk one will have with the father. But they definitely believe once saved always saved.
Free Will Baptist do not believe in OSAS. The more concerning questions among some FWB are whether or not you can get salvation back again if you do lose it, how do you know if you lost it, what does it take to lose it, and how far does God's grace reach out to the backslidden before they are considered fallen.
Eric
2007-07-06 00:08:41
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answered by Eric H 1
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The roots of Baptists are Calvinistic, that is, we, in our flesh, are totally depraved, unable to do anything of a spiritual nature. That God chooses or elects those for salvation, not based on merit or anything they will do, but out of grace and love. That the atonement was limited to the Church or the believers. Christ died for His "sheep", not for the whole world (everyone). Calvinism or Pauline theology also teaches that once someone is called by grace, they will not turn away, that grace is irresistible and that God will preserve His people forever, none will fall away. This is completely Biblical and in line with Christ's teachings and the teachings of the letters. I am afraid that many Baptist churches have fallen into Arminian thought, but some still hold to their roots.
2007-07-03 22:58:36
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answered by BrotherMichael 6
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There are many Calvinists in Baptist Churches (Reformers) - but I don't believe it's a majority - yet.
I was a Southern Baptist and didn't categorize myself as Calvinist (never!) or Armenian. I disagree with some of both view points and most Baptists aren't that extreme.
Just the Bible.
EDIT: Calvinists believe in God chooses who will be saved and who won't. You don't have a choice either way. We had a Calvinistic pastor who said that God simply only loved the chosen. (He was promptly fired)
2007-07-03 22:49:19
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answered by fanofchan 6
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My understanding is that the Southern Baptist Convention goes with the once-saved-always-saved viewpoint. Is that Calvinist or Arminian? I always get them mixed up.
2007-07-03 22:50:41
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answered by Lyle the farm cat 3
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There is more than you state regarding differences between the two. Calvinism teaches that God chooses the elect and everyone else is lost. Doesn't arminianism teach free will to choose Christ?
2007-07-03 23:01:40
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answered by expertless 5
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