anyone good at clarifying scripture?

Question

Psalms 82: 6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
John 10: 34
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Rom. 8: 17
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

someone on R&S thinks this means he can become a God. how are we, as Christians, to interpret this scripture?

Answer 1

gods (lower case) is indicitive of man making himself a god, and yet truly is not.

If you bothered to read the whole Psalm... it speaks of judgment of these men by way of Death.

Answer 2

Just like I answered it when it came up before!!! Just as U can't "Play a Game of Monopoly" with only one board Piece, U can't answer this question (like most asked here in an effort to Discredit Scripture) without reading the Scriptures Before & After it to see what is Really being Discussed or Spoken about or to!!! In this Instance (Psalms) the Jews were given "Judges" (like in Court today) with the "Power" of Life or Death, making them "As" God over Israels Peoples!!! But they were Corrupt and were Destroyed by God!!! Then in John, Christ says to the Jews basically "How is it U had no Problem with accepting the "Judges" who were given the "Word" of God (Christ is the "Word") and U accepted Him then, but Not Now??? Haven't I (Christ) shown U many Good Works in the Fathers name??? Must I remind U that if God called those to whom the "Word" came, "Gods", (and Scripture can't be Broken, [Proven Wrong]), then why do U say of Me (Christ) who the Father has "Sanctified" & Sent here to U, that I am "Blaspheming" the One who Sent (Authorized) Me to be here doing My Fathers Work? Is it because I say That I Am the Son of God??? If I don't do the works of My Father, then just don't believe in Me!!!" [ U see that right here they (as Usual) left out a bit of Scripture for their benefit as most do!] Then "Skipping" to Romans they TRY to Equate being an Heir with being the one who made them an Heir, God, which is an Obvious Twist of Word Meanings!!! Then to "Finish" Christs Discourse which they also left out: "But if I do these works and U still don't believe Me, Just believe the "Works" so that U will Know & Understand that the Father is in Me and I Am in the Father!!!"

Hope this clears up things for U, and shows that "Misinterpretations" occur because of people "Pick'n & Choosin" verses out of Context to Twist it into Fitting "Their Needs"!!! John

Answer 3

Holy Tradition is the handed down truth of Christianity, which shapes the Teachings of the Church equally with Scripture. The Holy Spirit has preserved this truth, and guided the Church over the years, using a variety of people, cultural contexts, and different languages to accomplish this task. Scripture is part of Tradition, and is the product of the same Spirit-Guided believing community that exists today. In a sense, we are a part of Tradition, especially our Church leaders who deal with current issues and problems. Tradition enriches our theology, worship, and ethics by showing us the wisdom and inspired collective experience of the past. Tradition sets the boundaries between correct belief, and belief that is incompatible with the teachings and person of Jesus. Everybody has a tradition, so why not have the time-honored Tradition of the Church?

Answer 4

I think David F has something there. A lot is lost in translation.

That at least was the explanation for my question on multiple 'Gods' in Genesis 1:26

Then God said, “Let us make 1 humankind 2 in our image, after our likeness, 3 so they may rule 4 over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the cattle, and over all the earth, 5 and over all the creatures that move 6 on the earth.”

I always wondered why God said let 'us'...

Good Luck in your search for answers

Answer 5

The original text (in Hebrew), does not say if he "rapes" her. (for one) The rest of the verse, is not a punishment, it is a moral obligation to make an honest woman out of her after he has seduced her, thereby making her no longer a virgin and a shame to her family and of no value to any other man. (which he makes restitution to the father for as well). All is to correct things and make them right. He can't give her virginity back, so the next best thing is to turn the dishonorable situation into an honorable one.

Answer 6

To an ant, humans might be considered gods.
The Pharisees were treated like gods, and when Jesus proclaimed Himself to be God, the Pharisees were incensed enough to pick up stones to stone Him.

The Psalm you cite, can cross reference to Exodus 20:3. God's commandment to not have other gods before Him actually acknowledges that there are many "gods" both in the world, and in the spirit realm.

Answer 7

still, after being on YA for about 7 months, you still see people trying to manipulate the word. You state psalm 82:6 but leave out 82:7 which says-

082:007 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. ---hello? die like men, Gods cannot die!

Not only that, this was spoken of or written by david, back in the day when israel was still powerful and a nation to rep. God on earth, before Jesus amended alot of the old word. the jews were gods, very special, but still mortal.

Answer 8

Well, the term "gods" ( Hebrew - elohim ) refers to human authorities and judges in Israel who were designated as God's representatives in administering justice, protecting the weak, and helping to deliver them from their oppressors. The term in no way means that mere humans are potentially gods, but only that they can become God's representatives with power and authority to bring judgement, and carry out justice.

In John 10:34, in no way does this statement of Jesus teach that believers are to consider themselves gods. Those that declare themselves to be gods will fall under the condemnation of God, for He declares, "The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens" ( Jer. 10:11 ).

The term, "ye are gods" was spoken by God to the corrupt rulers of Israel who judged unjustly, were partial to the wicked, and were cruel to children ( Psalms 82:1-4 ). These rulers, who thought they were gods, were to suffer the judgement of God and die ( Ps. 82:7 ). To declare oneself a god is the sin of the antichrist ( see 2 Thess. 2:4, 11 ).

Answer 9

Since human judges in Israel stood in the place of God in their role as judges (see Exodus 22:8,9; Deuteronomy 1:17; & 2 Chronicles 19:16,17), the judge, as God's deputy, is refered to as elohim.

Answer 10

We will be fortunate enough to be in God's Son's grace when we die. Let's not be crowning ourselves yet, okay?

Sweetie, quit throwing pearls before swine. Ask your minister or get a good commentary.