How can you base the worlds creation on Radiactive Materials?

Question

Im a christian, i believe a higher source to which we call God created the earth. Atheists are the only problem in my life, im constantly being crictized and judged just for what i believe in. Atheists beleive in the big bang thereoy (correct if wrong) and that somthing was created out of nothing. This is a chance for atheists to prove thier point and i also want the views of my fellow Christians as well.
Inputs,comments,ideas

Answer 1

Ok, Radioactive materials prove ages, not whether or not creation or evolution is correct, and give us an idea, based on their breakdown into non-radioactive materials, as to the age of the objects or substances surrounding them. I'm a Christian too, however as someone who has studied science at both HS and Uni I can see that the Bible is a Spiritual guidebook, not a Scientific textbook, and to take it literally in regards to any scientific subject is showing ignorance of it's true purpose.

Answer 2

A few points:

1 - Being an Atheist does not require accepting the theories of science. Many Atheists (especially vocal ones) are die-hard empiricists, and accept science as the best method for understanding the world, but Atheism itself does not imply a big bang, radioactive decay, or that the universe had a beginning.

2 - Saying "something was created out of nothing" is a set-up to prove that there's a creator. Instead, be more precise about the agreed upon point: "something exists."

3 - Atheists do not have to "prove their point." The onus of proof is always on the person make the positive claim. If there's a god, it's up to his believers to prove that he exists. If, for example, I said that I keep a real, live giraffe that I keep for a pet in my basement, I'm making an extraordinary claim. You should deny it unless I could offer up some proof.

On the flip side, you have to consider that there is absolutely no way for you to prove that my giraffe doesn't exist. You could argue that a basement has too low a ceiling for such a creature, but I can counter that mine is an anomalous "pygmy giraffe," possibly the only one of its kind, that does, in fact, fit. You might point out that nobody's seen my giraffe. I would argue that I keep him locked away in a secret room that nobody else has found. You might point out that no expert has ever seen a pygmy giraffe, but I can easily counter that he is both unique and, again, hidden away.

No matter what, I can find a counter to your refutation. You cannot disprove its existence. Nevertheless, do you really think that you should believe in my giraffe?

Bring all that into context. You can claim that there's a perfectly good, all-knowing being of unlimited power who created the universe and its contents, that he is beyond all physical laws, residing outside of time and space, and will micromanage our eternal existence. Furthermore, all he requires is that we believe that he exists and/or that we're nice to each other. To my Atheist ears, this a pretty far-fetched claim, and I'll simply ask for some evidence to back it up. Until that evidence is forthcoming, I should reject the belief just as strongly as you reject belief in my hidden pygmy giraffe.

4 - This isn't judgment or criticism. This is explaining my point of view on what you're saying.

Answer 3

Correct if wrong: "Atheists believe in the Big Bang Theory".

Nope - not all of them. And plenty of Christians do believe in it, even if you don't. And just because you don't understand radiometric dating doesn't mean it isn't real.

BTW: I'm not an atheist. Saying something can't be true because you don't understand it doesn't work. I don't understand why George Bush is President of the USA, so it can't be true. That is the "logic" that you are using, and it doesn't work.

As far as something being created out of nothing no one really knows yet because the beginning of the universe is still being figured out. It may not be that there was "nothing at all". It may be that all the energy and matter in the universe were in one very small place.

Answer 4

Big bang did not come from nothing. The matter was there previously. Radiometric dating is a simple concept. Radioactive materials decay at the same rate and over a very long time. Therefore it is easy to tell how old stuff is by measuring the daughter material and the original material. For further explanations feel free to visit this christian site since it explains it quite easily.

http://www.asa3.org/aSA/resources/Wiens.html

Answer 5

We don't. ... We base the accretion on the FACT of gravity.
( How can you lose your objectivity on one silly book? )

"(correct if wrong) " ... YES, YOU ARE *VERY* WRONG!
BIG BANG COSMOLOGY HAS...
S U P E R B ... R O C K ... S O L I D ... E V I D E N C E ! ! !
1. Expanding Universe ( What Else Is Possible? )
2. Big Bang 'Afterglow' or Heat Residue... CBR / CMB.
The BB was hypothetical with Hubble’s expanding universe & Lemaitre's circa 1930 'cosmic egg'; became a theory with Gamow in '48 (including prediction of the BB heat residue - Cosmic Background Radiation - CBR) and was widely regarded as FACT after Penzias and Wilson happened across the CBR 'afterglow' in '64 (they weren't looking) and measured it at almost the precise level of that predicted: ~2.76 degrees Kelvin.

All the above - except Priest LeMaitre - are Nobel Laureates for their contributions to BB. … The COBE satellite has since measured CBR as almost uniform throughout the Universe was nailed shut as FACT with wildly successful WMAP, including the famed precise dating of 13.7 bya.

The Big Bang Singularity existed (*not* like black hole singularities) and contained *all* the matter & energy in the Universe in a very high mass / close to zero volume point. Thus it was almost infinitely dense - i.e. *the athithesis of nothing*. ... That is: THERE WAS *NOTHING* TO CREATE.
S T A Y ... I N ... S C H O O L ... S T U D Y ... S C I E N C E!

Even religious organizations and sites recognise the status of BB Cosmology as 'FACT'... "After decades of struggle, other scientists came to accept the Big Bang as fact." (http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/science/sc0022.html)
In Science, "proof" is nothing, EVIDENCE is EVERYTHING!

Answer 6

Sorry to hear that I am a problem in your life.. If you believe in a higher being/ deity/ god how is it that little ole me is such a problem for you?

Yes I believe in the big bang theory.. No I don't feel the need to make you believe in the Big Bang Theory.. Read the theory, educate yourself don't expect me to do your homework for you, you won't learn that way..

You have a right to believe anything you want from worshiping a squirrel in a tree to socks in a washing machine..

Don't push your brand of dogma on me and I won't feel the need to push back with equal but opposite force..

Answer 7

i mean no offence, but as an atheist, we know scientifically how old the world is through how old the isotopes in fossils and other matierials are by how much they have decayed from the original isotope to daughter product.
i ask you; how can you trust the bible, a book of stories from a limited area of the world in a time when people knew but a fraction of what we know now?
it only makes sense to me that people would write the stories such as in the bible to explain the world around them when they didn't have the knowledge.
personally i prefer working with evidence and facts, it's just more plausible for me

Answer 8

We need to focus on what's important and that is the present state of the world. We don't yet have the technology to find out for sure how the universe was made but I'm sure believing in something just to fill the gaps in our knowledge is not helpful at all.

Answer 9

the only problem with that is that god had to come from nothing. I figure god evolved, then created, eventually in his image, no doubt.

Answer 10

The world's existence isn't "proven" using Carbon dating, where on EARTH are you getting THAT idea?

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