Question regarding Jesus...?

Question

When people say God sent his son to die so that all of us could live eternally, don't they really mean they sent his son to get tortured and have his physical body killed, but that he too would continue to live, as he has promised believers?

It isn't the same to me.. if you believe in God then there is no death, only the departure from Earth.. I thought..

Answer 1

Jesus was sent to the earth (and came willingly) to buy back what Adam lost for his offspring. The situation was "an eye for an eye" meaning a perfect man for a perfect man. It was a "Ransom Sacrifice". And you have to do alot more to live forever than just BELIEVE in God.

Answer 2

Isn't this idea even weirder though. Imagine that I was convicted of committing a crime, regardless of its seriousness. How is it either just or merciful to torture and kill someone else for me to escape honest justice. Likewise, if he had a special spiritual body, how is that an actual sacrifice. Either you are destroyed in sacrifice or you just appear to be destroyed, in which case the death is really a lie.

Isn't it a simpler idea that Jesus was executed and that his body was stolen either as a cruel prank by teens or soldiers and the group of followers psychologically imploded and in turn convinced themselves he rose from the dead. If you read the resurrection accounts side by side, you will find 46 logically contradictions, where if one account is true, the other must strictly be false. Without even a coherent witness to the events, how can you accept the idea, let alone promote it.

Answer 3

The payment for the believers sins was the suffering , the shedding of innocent blood , and the death of Jesus . He died so believers could live with him in heaven .Please get a king James version of the bible and start in the new testament . Go to a bible believing church ( usually fundamental ) Romans 10:17 " So then faith commeth by hearing , hearing by the word of God ". If you don't hear the word of God , there is no chance to have faith

Answer 4

Still JESUS the crucified SON of GOD is the topic of debate and research isn't that enough to proof that HE was a GOD embodied as man He was the part of GOD HIMSELF as a man is the part of his parents but a higher truth and purity is seen in this relationship of GOD. HE came and suffered many people at that time abused HIM scorned and beat HIM and HE is still being scorned by some but the saying from the cross remains the same "FATHER! forgive them for they do not know what they are doing"

Answer 5

Something that they will neglect to tell you when they say that, is that Jesus was a criminal.

The Romans allowed conquered countries to retain their own leadership as subjects to Caesar. In other words, they could govern themselves as they saw fit as long as they fulfilled all their obligations to Rome. In the case of Judea, Holy law was the whole of the law for the Jews. Judea's law was subservient to Roman Law.

Judea was a country whose entire governmental system was derived from religious teachings. Jesus preached against the beliefs of the law, and in some cases against the application of the law.

That makes Jesus of Nazareth a criminal, and a heretic. He was crucified in the manner of all criminals, and suffered no more or less than any other criminal sentenced to crucifixion by the Romans.

The death of Jesus is not even that uncommon because of his claim to be the son of a god, or a messiah. The Bible even mentions that there were several "false" messiahs active in the time of Jesus. The reality is that many people in Judea attempted to gain power and influence by wandering the countryside claiming to be the Messiah. It had been going on for hundreds of years before Jesus was born, and continued for hundreds of years after his death.

If you search the historical record, you will find at least 17 people throughout history who claimed to be the son of God, and were subsequently tortured and crucified for their teachings. Jesus Christ should be #16 on the list. Only 1 of them came after Jesus that I can think of off the top of my head... and he was a Roman!

-SD-

Answer 6

Resurrections were performed by or through the prophets Elijah and Elisha. (1Ki 17:17-24; 2Ki 4:32-37; 13:20, 21) However, these resurrected persons died again, as did those resurrected by Jesus when he was on earth as well as those resurrected by the apostles. This reveals that resurrection is not to everlasting life until Jesus Christ is “the firstborn from the dead.” (Col 1:18)

He was the first ever to be resurrected to everlasting life. And his resurrection was “in the spirit,” to life in heaven. (1Pe 3:18)

However, while Jesus was hanging on a stake, one of the evildoers alongside him, observing that Jesus was not deserving of punishment, requested: “Jesus, remember me when you get into your kingdom.” Jesus replied: “Truly I tell you today, You will be with me in Paradise.” (Lu 23:42, 43)

In effect, Jesus said: ‘On this dark day, when my claim to a kingdom is to outward appearances highly unlikely, you express faith. Indeed, when I do get into my kingdom, I will remember you.’

This would require a resurrection for the evildoer. This man was not a faithful follower of Jesus Christ. He had been engaged in wrongdoing, lawbreaking meriting the death penalty. (Lu 23:40, 41)

Therefore, he could not hope to be one of those who went to heaven with Jesus to serve with him as king and priest. (Re 20:4, 6)

Instead, when Jesus died it showed people WILL be resurrected onto the earth.

Matt 27:52 - " And the memorial tombs were opened and many bodies of the holy ones that had fallen asleep were raised up, (and persons, coming out from among the memorial tombs after his being raised up, entered into the holy city,) and they became visible to many people. "

Answer 7

Yeah... he died but then came back, I guess. Maybe once, maybe twice depending on who you ask. Kind of a "the cat came back" thing.
I don't really get why God has to always prove his point with torture and death, though. Does that really make any sense to you?

Answer 8

How is it a sacrifice if nothing was lost? If I gave you a few dollars as "a sacrice"...would it really be a sacrifice if I was a millionaire? Not really. Christ didn't give up anything. He died...but not really? How is this a sacrifice?

Answer 9

Yes you have a point there, he suffered greatly for us.

Answer 10

well. those are the same thing. it just depends how morbidly you look at it.