Just so he could send the majority to Hell?
2007-07-03 11:06:57 · 15 answers · asked by skeptic 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Savagenation: so your God is NOT omnipotent or omniscient?
2007-07-03 11:20:21 · update #1
God created beings that were perfect but had the potential to defy him and in so doing become imperfect. Why? He created this place we call the universe to express and display himself and his glory, and he created man to share in this perfect glorious state. Savage nation is incorrect, God knew we would fall but he allowed it just the same because he is not a cosmic rapist who would force his love on us. Indeed, such a thing would not be love at all. He set this whole plan up in advance in order to save the ones who would desire to do his will. Those are the ones he will save, through no merit of their own, by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on Calvary's cross. When paradise lost becomes paradise restored, there will be no one there who wants to sin, and therefore when God makes it impossible to sin, he will not have created robots, or used coercion in order to achieve his ends. Not only will believers be able to finally and fully worship him in spirit and in truth, but the reprobate will have no one to blame but themselves. For a more theologically precise definition, you may want to ask a trained theologian.
2007-07-03 12:05:50 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
An omnipotent God *can't* make imperfect beings. If he can't make them perfect, he's not omnipotent. We only seem imperfect, because our pespective is that of a conscious being within time and space. If there's a God, then time and space are a whole, and from the perspctive of that whole, there is nothing less than perfect.
Unfortunately, as conscious beings with limited awareness we perceive things as "good," "evil," "righteous," etc. These terms have no objective meaning and only exist as perceptions or individual judgements. We make these because of the nature of human consciousness (which is what eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was about in the Garden of Eden myth). Fortunately, that perspective breaks down once we get above material reality.
...and FYI -- there is no such thing as Hell
A religion that preaches otherwise is more about maintaining worldly power than it is about revealing spiritual reality to the people.
2007-07-03 18:22:35 · answer #2 · answered by Sir N. Neti 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Humans are beautiful in thier imperfections. The fact that we strive to do better when we have done wrongfully is proof of this. The only thing that makes us truly fail is when we fail to correct our error despite what we have been taught, (if you follow religiously anyway). Nothing is more perfect than watching someone succeed when they had failed over and over at just that very thing at which they tried, especially when it comes to matters of the heart.
We have free will, which was not even given to the angels of Heaven, and the fact that we can choose our own path, and either if we fail or succeed, must fill God with some pride when we do succeed. I believe He wants us all to succeed. Even when we don't, I believe He has endless hope in us.
2007-07-03 18:21:52 · answer #3 · answered by HeavensSpire 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
He didn't make them imperfect! Adam and Eve were perfect, they had everything they needed, but they became greedy and wanted to be like God. They became imperfect when they sinned and they were the mold for everyone else that came after them. LIke a cake pan with a dent in it, we all came out with the same dent. God's original purpose for the earth hasn't changed, for man to live on the earth in perfection forever, and he will soon wipe out all the suffering sorrow, tears and death from the earth.
2007-07-03 18:28:59 · answer #4 · answered by SisterCF 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
if you look at this Biblically, God created man perfect but man in exercising free will sinned against God and sin separates us from God so sin and death came into the world. Did God know they were going to sin? yeah Did God want them to? No. Could God have made them not sin? yeah, but that would mean their would be no free will, we would be robots. God wants his creation to have freedom to accept Him or reject Him.
2007-07-03 18:28:02 · answer #5 · answered by Ryan K 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Wait, wait, wait. Even factoring in that god gave us free will he is STILL omniscient. He knows EVERYTHING. Try to worm your way out of that one.
Didn't really think this one through, did ye?
2007-07-03 18:16:11 · answer #6 · answered by Morkarleth 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Apparently so. The universe primarily exists for God's glory, not for our self indulgence (God has to get something out of the deal; otherwise why bother creating anything at all?). If God's glory is enhanced by his demonstrations of his justice against unrepentant rebels, then why not do it?
If this bothers you, so be it. I don't think that God worries himself that we tiny humans think poorly of his schemes.
2007-07-03 18:12:46 · answer #7 · answered by Randy G 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
God is like a young sociopath who starts burning ants with a magnifying glass, disemboweling cats, and then moves on to torturing people
2007-07-03 18:10:11 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
To show them how to succeed. The idea is not that we should be perfect, but that we will fail and try again, and the intent behind not giving up is what makes us better. It is the intent behind every action, not neccessarily the action itself, which is important.
2007-07-03 18:20:44 · answer #9 · answered by laraine_drama_queen 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
The ones who go to hell do so because they love darkness.
God created humankind for fellowship; that we would have his fellowship, not because he needed ours.
Why is it that your types always want to ascribe evil to God?
HE SUFFERED AND DIED TO PAY FOR YOUR SINS.
If you understand nothing else, understand the measure of his resolve to redeem you FROM HELL.
TEK
2007-07-03 18:12:02 · answer #10 · answered by TEK 4 · 1⤊ 3⤋