Christians: Why should an Atheist's tax money pay for the indocrination of a religious belief (Creationism)?

Question

It's already been established that teaching Creationist Science, Intelligent Design, or whatever name you want to re-hash your "Genesis" story as in a Government funded school is unconstitutional, so lets leave that point at that.

However, what I'd like to ask you is:
Why should an Atheist's tax money pay for the indoctrination of a religious pseudo-science (ID, CS, etc) which has no application outside the beliefs of the Christian Church?

And if you were wondering "Why should a Christian's tax money pay for the indoctrination of a science called Evolution which has no application outside the world of Science", it's because science is a universally accepted and successful process of deducing the world around us, at which religion has failed.

to lilmisskato:
You obviously didn't read the full question...

I hate it when that happens :l

to Sam:
Bugger. Read the question dammit! No, your tax money does NOT go into Creationist education in Public schools, that was established as Unconstitutional in 2005...

to sophie:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/01/13/evolution.textbooks.ruling/

Unconstitutional.
Ok, so I generalized. But give me ONE example of when religiion was able to logically deduce anything of the natural world. One example.

to Tom:
It's fine to teach religion as what it is: a religion, and nothing more.

However, it is not ok for Theists to try and sneak in their indoctrination into a science class room setting as a valid "theory"...

*update in general:
Dull bunch tonight...
Evolution constantly changes, but that's the beauty of science. New evidence and new theories are constantly introduced to further improve our understanding of the world, why Theistic Pseudo-science constantly ignores logic and scientific evidence in order to preach a theory which in short is quite an embarssment to modern day science.

Answer 1

Coke Cat, I'm sorry to see that so many people didn't even finish reading your question...

As for your question, it shouldn't; According to some of the people above me's logic, it's then also questionable that our tax payer's money is being used to teach science in general in public schools. Here's the thing; creationism strictly endorses religion, and a specific one too. Theory of Evolution, as with every other scientifc theory, neither endorses nor discriminates a single religion. In fact, it doesn't even have anything to do with religion in the first place. It was just percieved by the religious community (especially Christians) as a threat (like heliocentric model of the solar system and the fact that earth is round).

And some people talk about "open-minded" atheists being so hypocritical. Well, theres a fine line between being "open-minded", and just plain stupid. Evolution is a universally accepted fact in the scientific community with vast amounts of evidence supporting it. Modern biology (including recent advacements in medical sciences) is practically based on the theory of evolution and if you disregard it as "just a theory", that's just being very ignorant. By the way, creationism/intelligent design has NO evidence or single shred of logic/proof in their arguements. It's not even a scientific theory because it's not falsifiable. I'm not being biased; that's just the cold truth. Teaching creationism in a science class is like teaching alternate medicine in a medical school. It just doesn't work.

United States has the one of the highest % of people that still doubts the theory of evolution in the western world, just behind turkey (which is last). Only thing that has kept our country from turning into a theocracy is the constitution that guarantees the separation of church and state. Let's keep it that way people...

Answer 2

You make a good point. I agree with you. I two am so sick of people bashing other people here. The best part about it is when an Atheist talks about how they hate stupid christians who push their beliefs, while they are doing that they are doing the same thing the christians are doing. Im also sick of the christians doing the same thing. Don't get me wrong not bashing anyone, but the two groups keep talking about how the other one is crazy or tries to push their beliefs. All I can do is sit back and laugh while I think you idiots what the hell do you think you are doing. In my opinion, all the christians and all the Atheists who keep bashing each other are all crazy. Stop fighting about what you believe. I personally come here to help someone looking for an answer that is all.

Answer 3

Nobody's tax money is being used for the "indoctrination" of creationism.

Creationism, if it's taught at all, is presented simply as a possibility. It's never taught in public schools as fact, and it's certainly not "indoctrinated" into students.

Oh, by the way, science is not always the "successful process" that you claim it to be.

There have been plenty of times in history where science has screwed the pooch big-time.

In fact, religion is much more effective in answering the questions it was designed to answer, than science is in answering the questions it was meant to answer.
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Answer 4

The US Supreme Court has been wrong about a lot of things.

Take the Dred Scott Case for example?

Does anyone besides the KKK agree with that decision?

Why should Christians, who are the majority in this country fund schools which teach the religion of Evolutionists?

Pastor Art

Answer 5

Given that the amount of evidence for evolution (not adaptation, this concept predates Darwin) is the same as the amount of evidence for ID, why is evolution being taught as fact?

This isn't a question, it's a polemic without a source...nes pa?

PS...where is your evidence? Piltdown Man is a hoax, Java Man is a hoax, Lucy was built with skeletons spread out over a 10 square mile radius in a dry river, Australopithicus et. al. are of questionable age...oh, and where are those transitional forms?

Answer 6

Why should Christian's tax money go to pay for strict teaching of Macro-Evolution? Why not present all sides and let the student decide what they want to believe? There's enough scientific information for both sides to be valid. Last time I checked Evolution was still a theory. Not scientific fact.

Answer 7

Your statements would be convincing if they where based in truth at all.

Evolution is not "universally accepted" as you claim. How can it be? The theory changes constantly, and faces continual opposition from both the scientific community and the laws of science themselves.

Personally, I think we should be teaching Judeo-Christian values in schools. If nothing else, to note their importance to teh founding of the United States and western civilization.

Answer 8

This is retarded.

Intelligent design is a biblical-based "THEORY" created by man.

Evolution is a scientific-based "THEORY" also created by man.

Whatever happened to the open-mindedness of these "enlightened" atheists?

Why not teach both, and let the student choose what to believe? In the end, it's their decision anyway.

and BTW, why pay taxes at all?

Answer 9

Actually this Christian agrees with you. I accepted the theory of evolution when I was 12. I don't want religion in schools in any way. I wouldn't have any objections to a world religions class, but I don't want any one religion focused on.

Answer 10

There is indoctrination of creationism? In tax payer funded public schools? Name one.

Public schools are funded through local property taxes. I completely agree that the tax payers in each school district should be allowed to influence that school districts curriculum. But they aren't allowed to.

Atheists have forced their standards down the majority of property tax payers throats. Atheism has forced itself on +90% of the American population.

I'm fine if atheists keep their limited tax dollars, and stay out of the education process.