Where do Arabs occupy Israel?

Question

Going through some questions and answers I came across an answer giving to the question: why does Israel still occupy Palestine.

The answerer answered with this quetion: why do Arabs still occupy Israel?

Question: WHERE do Arabs occupy Israel?
Did I miss anything?

Would any Israeli here please be so nice and let me know or correct your fellow about who occupies whose territory.

Thanks in advance!

Thanks to all of you who took time to answer my question so far. But, please, no history lessons no more. We live in the year 2007 and my question was regarding the present or let's say since the State of Israel was established. Are any Arabs forcing Israelis to leave their homes? Are Arabs building a wall? Who is mistreating whom? Is any Arab taking anything away from an Israeli today?
I do admit that Arabs are no angels and have their faults. But self defense is not only an Israeli thing.
Btw: I hate violence no matter what caused it and who does it. Just to make that clear.
Sometimes I think the question about Isralis/Arabs is: what was there first: the egg or the hen. But the problem needs to be solved TODAY not matter what was there first, what was written or said thousand years ago. Leaving the past behind and start since the State of Israel got established. Where do Arabs occupy Israel?

Answer 1

ISRAEL VERSUS THE OCCUPIERS: The History And Meaning Of "Palestine" And "Palestinian."
By Michael Bussio Jul-Aug 2006 Issue of Think-Israel

"From the end of the Jewish state in antiquity to the beginning of British rule, the area now designated by the name Palestine was not a country and had no frontiers, only administrative boundaries..." -- Professor Bernard Lewis, Princeton University

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not." -- Professor Philip Hatti, Arab historian to Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, 1946

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria." -- Delegate of Saudi Arabia to the United Nations Security Council, 1956.

"Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of one percent of the landmass. But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today... No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough." -- Joseph Farah, Arab-American editor and journalist, author of "Myths of the Middle East"

There has never been a Palestinian state in the history of the region. Palestine has never existed as an autonomous entity. There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. The "so-called" Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians, etc. Even the name Palestine came from the Roman Emperor Hadrian around 135 A.D. after Rome put down yet another Jewish revolt. The Emperor was increasingly angry over the rebellious nature of Judah, Judea and Samaria that he was determined to break the back of the stiff neck Jews once and for all. When asked, who were the Jews most ardent enemies of the distant past, the Emperor was told the Philistines; thus the name Palestina, which would later be morphed into the word Palestine.

Nearly eighteen hundred years later, Great Britain took over that part of the Middle East as a mandate from the League of Nations. The British chose to call the land Palestine. It wasn't long before the various Arab tribes, native Egyptians, Syrians, and Turks living in the area adopted the word Palestine as if it were some ancient name passed down from their forefathers. Strange, the Arabs couldn't even pronounce it correctly, and used the fictional entity, Falastine.

THE WORD -- "PALESTINE"

The word Palestine has never been used as a name of a nation or state, but rather as a geographical term, used to designate the region at those times in history.

The word Palestine comes from the name Peleshet. Peleshet appears frequently in the Bible and entered into English as "Philistine". It dates to the thirteenth century B.C. These people were thought to be the dangerous "Sea Peoples" that so threaten the Aegean, Egypt, Syria, and present day Israel, Turkey, and Lebanon. Historians and archeologist believe these "Sea Peoples" originated from Greece and many of the Greek Islands. From there they would raid the region for plunder and general destruction. Eventually they would establish five independent city-states (including Gaza) on a narrow strip of land that came to be known as "Philistia". The Greeks and Romans would call it Palestina. At no time were the Philistines of old ever considered to be Arabs. They were not even Semites. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs. The name "Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Greco-Roman "Palestina" derived from Peleshet. Back to Beliefs

HOW DID THE LAND OF ISRAEL BECOME "PALESTINE"?

In the First Century after the birth of Jesus of Nazareth, the Romans crushed the independent kingdom of Judea. Though the Jews had successfully created a nation state for the second time in their history (the first being that of King David and King Solomon), it was eventually smashed by the Roman Emperor Hadrian. In the Emperor's haste to wipe out the identity of Israel-Judah-Judea-Samaria, (those areas that make up much of Israel today), Hadrian not only defeated the Israelite armies and sent many Jews into exile, but he took the name Palestina and imposed it on all the Land of Israel. At the same time, he changed the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina.


Though the Romans killed many Jews and sold many more into slavery, there was never a complete abandonment of the Land of its people. There was never a time when there were not Jews and Jewish communities living on the land.
A SHORT HISTORY OF PALESTINE

Before the Greeks, before the Romans, before the land was known by its invented Roman name of "Palestina", more than a millennium ago, the region had been called the land of "Canaan". The people known as Canaanites had the unique ability of creating small vibrant city-states, though none ever reached the grandeur, and efficiency of the Greek city-states of antiquity. At times these small states were independent, but for much of their history, the Canaanite city-states were vassals of an Egyptian or Hittite king. In their entire history the Canaanites never united into a single nation.

After the Hebrews were granted their freedom in the Exodus from Egypt nearly 3,300 years ago, they wandered the desert for the next 40 years before settling in the lands of Canaan. There they would form the first Jewish government; the first Jewish nation out of the kingdoms of Israel, Judah, and later that of Judea and Samaria.

Israel-Judah-Judea and parts of Samaria united into one nation, thus forming the "only" independent, sovereign nation-state that has ever existed in the entire history of "Palestine" west of the Jordan River. (In Biblical times, Ammon, Moab, and Edom as well as Israel had land east of the Jordan, but they disappeared in antiquity and no other nation took their place until the British invented Trans-Jordan in the 1920's.)

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The Roman Empire would eventually extend its borders to the Middle East with the conquest of Judea, Judah, Israel and Samaria. This region would become a province of the pagan Roman Empire and then of the Christian Byzantine Empire, and very briefly of the Zoroastrian Persian Empire. After the death of Mohammad in the 600's A.D. the Arab-Muslim Caliph conquered Palastina from the Byzantines, and made it apart of their Arab-Muslim Empire. Since the Arabs had no name of their own for the area they opted for adopting the name the Romans gave the region -- Palastina, which the Arabs pronounced Falastine.
During this time in history, much of the mixed population of Palastina was converted to Islam and eventually was pressured to adopt the Arabic language. Whether they liked it or not the people of the region were subject to the whims of a distant dictator, the Caliph. The area of Palastina at not time ever became an Arabic nation, or ever became an independent Arabic state of any kind, or ever developed a distinct Arabic culture and or society.

The year 1099 A.D. marked the first year of the First Crusade. It also was the year the Christian Crusaders conquered Palastina-Falastin. After 1099, it was never again under Arab rule. Though the Christian Crusader kingdom was politically independent, it never developed a national identity. For all intense and purposes it remained only a military outpost of Christian Europe, and lasted less than one century. Thereafter, Palastina-Falastin would be ruled as a subject province by Syria, then by the Egyptian dominated, ethnically mixed slave-warriors known as Mameluks, and finally by the Ottoman Turks.

Near the end of World War I, the British led by the likes of General Allenby and Lawrence of Arabia took control of Palestine from the Ottomans. Thus with the fall of the Ottoman Empire at the end of the war, its once subject provinces came under the influence of the European powers. Palestine was one of those subject provinces, and it came under the control of Great Britain who would now govern the territory on a temporary mandate from the League of Nations.

THE HISTORICAL HOME OF THE JEWS

Over the centuries many from the West traveled through the region. They gave an excellent account of what they saw there. And what they saw was depressing to say the least. All mentioned the land as being empty, neglected, abandoned, and desolate. "Everything had fallen into disrepair and ruins," one visitor said. An English pilgrim stated in 1590, "There is nothing there (Jerusalem) to be seen but a little of the old walls which is yet remaining, and all the rest is grass moss, and weeds". The British consul to the region stated in 1957, "The country is in considerable degree, empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is of a body of population." It was not unusual to hear from travelers returning home from this area of the Middle East to assert that, "There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent [Valley of Jezreel] -- not for 30 miles in either direction... One may ride ten miles hereabouts and not see ten human beings." It was reported in Europe and the United States that, "For the sort of solitude to make one dreary, come to the Galilee... Nazareth is forlorn... Jericho lies a moldering ruin... Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and humiliation... untenanted by any living creature..." One visitor declared that the "country was desolate whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds... a silent, mournful expanse... a desolation.... We never saw a human being on the whole route... Hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil had almost deserted the country..." Even Mark Twain was taken by the devastation of the region, stating in his 1867 trip to the Palestine territory, "Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes... desolate and unlovely..."

The land would not maintain its "desolate and unlovely" image for long. With the coming of Jewish pioneers in the latter half of the Nineteenth Century who would join with the many Jews who already lived in the region from time immemorial, the land began to turn green. Their hard work and diligence in bringing the land back to life attracted many others in the Middle East who sought employment opportunities and a better life style. Thus many Arab migrants were drawn to the area in hopes of better conditions for their families. Back to Beliefs

"His Majesty's' government views with favor the establishment in Palestine of a Jewish National Home, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object..." This was the Balfour Declaration of 1917. It was validated by the League of Nations Mandate, and thereby committed the British Government to the principle that there would be a Jewish state in that portion of the Middle East. It also specified that those Jews living in the region be preserved and protected.

The area in question that Britain had committed itself to, Mandated Palestine, originally included all of what is now Jordan, as well as all of what is now Israel, Judea, Samaria and the Gaza strip. This would change when Britain's wartime ally (World War I), Emir Abdullah was forced out of his Hashemite domain in Arabia by the Saudi family. In order to preserve their alliance however, Great Britain opted for making the former king ruler of a great portion of Mandated Palestine and lands east of the Jordan River. There was no traditional or historic Arab name for this land, so it was called after the river: first Trans-Jordan and later just Jordan.

With the British violating their own declaration under the mandate, the proposed ancestral and National Home for the Jews was cut by more than 75 percent. From this point on, no Jew has ever been permitted to reside in Trans-Jordan/Jordan. In addition, the British progressively restricted Jews from building, farming, purchasing land, and living where they wanted within the region.

Nonetheless, following the 1967 Six-Day War, Israel finally entered those lands long forbidden to them by the British and later by Jordan. Though one British government after another went about denouncing Jewish settlement as "illegal", the reality of the situation was that it was Great Britain who was acting in an illegal manner by prohibiting Jews from these parts of the ancestral Jewish National Home originally promised to them. Back to Beliefs

JUST WHO IS A PALESTINIAN?

While Britain mandated over the region, it was the Jews, not any Arab tribe that was known as a Palestinian, including those Jews that served in the British Army during the Second World War, while various Arab groups aligned themselves with Nazi Germany.

More often than not it was British policy brought on by fits of anti-Semitism, and Arab oil that continually restricted Jewish immigration. It was the 1939 White Paper that all but put to an end the admission of Jews to Palestine. When Jews needed a helping hand the most, it was this White Paper that became the death nil for Jews fleeing to the Promised Land, from the threat of annihilation at the hands of Hitler's executioners. Jews who might have lived, developed the nearly empty lands of Palestine, and prospered, were instead murdered in the death camps that stretched out over Nazi occupied Europe.

While the British together with their Arab helpers were closing the door to those Jews attempting to escape certain death in Europe, they were more than willingly to permit massive illegal Arab immigration from Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and North Africa into the ancestral lands of the Jews.

A famous myth states that the various Arab tribes have long established themselves in Palestine. Then the Jews came and drove them out. This is of course patently false, as any historian will tell us. History enlightens us to the fact that it was the assortment of Arab tribes that entered the region through illegal immigration and it was they who, with violence, "displaced" the Jews. In fact this Arab violence was used against the Jews in areas where they (the Jews) had long been established. For example, the Jewish presence in the city of Hebron goes back to Abraham, and there has been an Israelite/Jewish community there since Joshua, long before it was King David's capital. In 1929, Arab rioters, with the passive consent of the British, killed or drove out virtually the entire Jewish population. The world community stood by and did nothing. The U.N. itself, no friend to Israel and certainly not friend to any Jew, declared that the massive increase in Arab population was very recent; that any Arab who had lived in Palestine for two years and then left in 1948 qualifies as a "Palestinian refugee."

Nearly twenty years later, following the 1929 riots, the British created the state of Trans-Jordan, which eventually seized much of Judea and Samaria (i.e., the West Bank) East Jerusalem, and the old city. They killed or drove out every Jew. And the world community stood by and did nothing.

As far as the British and the Arabs were concerned all lands where the Jews had been driven from, making the land Judenrein would remain so for ever. And the world once again stood by and did nothing. It is interesting to note and by contrast, Israel, eventually allotted only 17 percent of Mandated Palestine had to absorb a large and growing population of Arab citizens.

FROM PALESTINE BACK TO ISRAEL... AGAIN

By the time of the "third" Jewish nation -- Israel, the Arab tribes of the region had still not yet discovered their ancient nation of Falastin. The U.N. offered them (the Arab tribes) half of Palestine in 1947 -- half! And what did the Arabs do with this offer to a non-people? They violently rejected it. Soon, all to soon, six Arab nations swept down upon the only Jewish state in the region with the intent of driving every last Jew into the sea. The Arab goal was the complete eradication of Jewry in that portion of the Middle East. And the stated goal of the Arab tribes in the area was the creation of the 22nd Arab state known as Falastin.

The Arabs failed in their attempt to massacre the Jewish population of Israel. Now the Arab tribes of the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) even forfeited any right to a nation of their own when their brethren in Trans-Jordan invaded the West Bank and East Jerusalem, occupied these territories, and killed or drove out all the Jews who had lived there since time immemorial. The Jews were banned for life from traveling and praying before Jewish holy places in the region. In the meantime another Arab nation, Egypt succeeded in taking the Gaza Strip. Both Egypt and Jordan held onto conquered lands until 1967. In that same year the Arab nations that surrounded Israel initiated another war of genocide. The end result however, was much like the first -- the Arabs lost again in their bid to destroy the Jewish nation, and in consequence lost lands they had taken in 1948.

In a nineteen-year span from 1948-1967, Jordan and Egypt never once, not once, offered to hand over Judea, Samaria, and the Gaza Strip to make up an independent state of Falastin. Once more, the so-called "Palestinians" never sought it. And not one nation in the entire world ever suggested it, much less demanded it.

Since the end of the First World War, the Arabs of the Middle East and North Africa have been given independent states in 99.5 percent of the land they claimed. They are determined that the remaining .5 percent be developed into yet another Arab nation at the expense of the lone Jewish state. To that end, the Palestine Liberation Movement was set up in 1964 with the express purpose of destroying the State of Israel and driving out of the region all the Jews.

The sad truth today is that history has been thrown aside. Many nations, including the United States have engineered media and public opinion to accept without question; without any serious analysis the new myth of an Arab nation of Falastin whose territory is unlawfully occupied by the Jews.

Michael Bussio is a former teacher of history. He has worked for INR at the US Department of State in Washington D.C., lived in Israel, and is the author of "Threat to America: A Citizen's Handbook on International Terrorism" (To be published). Contact him at [e-mail]



Is that an OK explanation?
So, what do you think, DID you miss anything?


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dryest flame, well thought-out intelligent answer........ overruled! Considering the asker's agenda, you probably will get the best answer, but you don't have a single VALID argument. F+



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"Are any Arabs forcing Israelis to leave their homes?"
Answer: Yes. Ever heard of the city of Sderot? What about Gush-Katif? Ever heard of Hamas statements? Ever seen their actions? I know you did, but Jews are easier to blame, right?
And besides, are Jews forcing Arabs to leave their homes? And the answer is - other then the homes used by Arab snipers NO!


"Are Arabs building a wall? "
Answer: No, of course not! Why would they? They have nothing to be afraid of! It's not like a Jewish 14-yeaold is going to sneak into a Gaza city and blow up a few bystanders along with himself, just to get to those virgins ASAP.
Ask yourself this: would you build a wall knowing that you can stop some psychopaths from killing YOUR children?

"Who is mistreating whom? "
Answer: Both sides are guilty at that, but the only reason Arabs are "mistreated" is because a majority of them supports, harbors, and grows terrorists.

"Is any Arab taking anything away from an Israeli today?"
Answer: Yes, peaceful existence as well as co-existence.

"Where do Arabs occupy Israel?"
Answer: In my eyes Arabs occupy Israel as much as in your eyes Israel occupies Arabs. And if you say that you are annoyed with history lessons, than forget what happened 40 years ago and look at today. My saying about Arabs occupying Israel came in response to someone's saying about Israel occupying Arabs. To me it sounded unfair, but it didn't to you.

Problem needs to be solved, I agree. Problem will be solved just as soon as Arabs will stop their attacks. They themselves will only suffer more if they don't stop. But for them to stop means to lose (though in reality they would only win)

I will repeat this for as long as I can:
If Arabs put down their weapons there will be peace.
If Jews put down their weapons there will be no more Jews.
This is the reality of today's situation in the Middle East.



For fanano (answerer 15)

> Why does Israel still have tanks and forces in West Bank, Gaza Strip, and the holy land Jerusalem?
Because of Hamas and others like them. Jerusalem is OUR holy land, and not your holy land. Nowhere in the koran does it say anything about Jerusalem. You pray with your backs to Jerusalem, so don't give me that.


> Why does Israel take many old mosques and turn them to bars, hamburger stands, and factories?
False. Lies. No facts, just mumbling.
But while we are at it, what did you people do to our synagogues in Gush Katif? That was televised.



> Why does Israel say that we are only taking a small portion of the land that belongs to them and they still take increase their occupation: Lebanon, Golan Heights, Sinaa'?
You need medical help if you think that what you said there is true.

* For the Christians, what would you do if Israel took "Bethlehem" and turned it into something of its own?
That is exactly what muslims did to Bethlehem (No quotes, that city is called Bethlehem). Poor Christians are running away from it. Muslims use churches for their bathroom purposes.


Here is an article about the situation in areas controlled by the pali authority:

After World War II, Bethlehem, the birthplace of Jesus, was 80% Christian and Nazareth 60%. Now those percentages are 20% and 30% respectively, and are shrinking. Jerusalem Christians were a plurality in the 1920s; today, they number under 2 percent of the city's population.

Serious violations of religious freedom are reported from within the Palestinian Authority, especially the persecution of Muslims who have converted to Christianity. In the Christian town of Bet Jella, a human rights lawyer reported brutal interrogation methods and arbitrary arrests based on fabricated criminal charges against Muslims who have converted to Christianity and their families. His report includes testimony about torture from victims who were terrified to criticize the Palestinian Authority and their secret police.

In Nazareth, the Christian population has decreased dramatically due to the rise and spread of militant Islam. The Islamic Movement (a radical Muslim group) has demanded the construction of a mosque near the Church of the Annunciation, a mosque even some moderate Muslims oppose. On Easter, 1999, the Muslim group burned Christian stores and targeted Christians over the issue; attempts to intervene were frustrated because Christians are terrified to speak out.

Hundreds of Christian families have left Palestinian towns like Bet Jella and Bethlehem during the al-Aqsa intifada, caught literally in the crossfire between Palestinians and Israelis. On the West Bank, a nearly-permanent Muslim boycott of Christian businesses is achieving its objective: driving the Christians to emigrate.

In October 2000, Christians were attacked in Gaza after a Palestinian Muslim leader called for a "jihad" against both Jews and Christians.

In February 2002 a Muslim mob, including Palestinian Authority Special Forces, burned Christian businesses and attempted to destroy the Greek Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches in Ramallah. The attack occurred after a Christian man killed a Muslim while being pursued by a Muslim gang because he refused to pay protection money for safe passage to his home.

Answer 2

Arabs are not native to the land of Israel (or elsewhere in the Fertile Crescent or North Africa).

The Arab ancestral homeland is the Arabian Peninsula.

Islamic culture and Arabic language dominate the Middle East today due to the invasions following the establishment of Islam.

When Jews lived in Arabia (before mostly being murdered or driven out) they understood they were not the native people there.
There was never a movement among the Jews of Mohammed's time to create a false history that the Jews were the real ancient owners of Arabia, as the Arabs have created a fictional history of their presence in Palestine these past 40 years.

Answer 3

Personally I do not believe that to be true, but I could try to play devils advocate.

First one can definitely say that parts of Israel were occupied by Arabs in the past, including parts that were to be part of Israel under the UN partition plan, but that is in the past.

As for now Gaza can be said to be occupied (controlled) by Arabs considering the fact that Hamas controls the territory. Not withstanding the fact Israel still controlls the air and sky around it, the land itself is controlled by Hamas.

The same to a lesser degree can be said about areas in the West Bank.

Also the occupy can technically mean reside. Just as a person can occupy a house by living in it so can an Arab occupy Israel by living there, in a sense of the word

Answer 4

Can we forget that question or answer, and just look into facts and decide who is doing injustice? who is waging wars? and who is doing what? of course all parties involved in conflict have made mistakes, and there will be generations bearing the results.
History surely helps us. But it is not a question if there was an Israel or a palestine some thosands or hundereds yesrs ago, because though history is a continuation, but can we say that there was an Asia from the begining? and there was an Africa when the earth took shape? Or can we say that Britain was there when the first human was born?
Where has Roaman Empire gone? where are the Greeks? where are mighty Mughals? same way that Israel of past is just past. Palestine existed or not, that is also a question for historians to decide. But can we neglect the demographical facts of today? can we forget how was that land just sixty years back? and how events took place.

Answer 5

I wont go in-depth for this answer.
I will let you do the judging..

> Why does Israel still have tanks and forces in West Bank, Gaza Strip, and the holy land Jerusalem?
> Why does Israel take many old mosques and turn them to bars, hamburger stands, and factories?
> Why does Israel state that it is only taking a small portion of the Arab land that they believe belongs to them and they still increase their occupation: Lebanon, Golan Heights, Sinaa'?

* For the Christians, what would you do if Israel took "Bethlehem" and turned it into something of its own?


World Peace
Regards,
Fanano

Answer 6

Watching tv is easier but I love reading catalogs more

Answer 7

while reading a written publication, you're stimulating the human brain. You transform your life reading and literacy skills and you simply in the process, are more literate. Despite having today's modern technology, you should be able to read still.
While watching t.v. can be good fun, it is not doing anything to your brain.

Answer 8

well ,I am a Palestinian and my father was born in Palestine in a camp in Jericho (to were his family was immigrated by the israelis from jerusalem) and he was immigrated and his family out of Palestine in 1967 , I was born out of Palestine I can never go there neither my father though it is our homeland.my grandfather was born in a village in Jerusalem and he was immigrated in the 1947 to Jericho where my father was born.
and the village now is completely ruined. so who is the occupier.
my land is just an image why can not I go there.
WHY CAN NOT MY FATHER DO SO.
why are the palestinians immigrated all over the world having no nationalities ,no citizinship rights,what did we do for the isralis to be killed and immigrated then living astray.
many speak of us and they do not know how much we suffered.may be the national peace activists gave us some help to show the truth about what is going in our homeland to the western world.but still we need the support of media to show the hidden truth.
why israel is harming journalists if it is not violating human rights in palestine? why did the israelis banned them from entering JENIN after ALDERE ALWAQI operation in 2002??
why did they killed the american peace activist rachel currie by an israeli bulldozer??

my other grandfather has the papers that shows that he owned a land in hebron before 1947 but why can not he go and live there nor his sons and daughters.
it is the Israeli occupation.
you should ask Palestinians who has no Bulldozers and no high-tech military weapons,who has no powerful media in the west.who are naked and try to defend the rest of their land by their flesh and manual missiles.
There has been a media circus fed by a huge Israeli-government public-relations effort to drum up sympathy for the Israelis.and be aware not to be drawn to this circle of lies made by the israelis.

Answer 9

The majority of 'Palestinian Arabs" are not Palestinian at all but refugees from Jordan as Jordan threw them out. Those are the ones who commit almost all of the violence.

Answer 10

i have a question, how did the jewish state first started, i mean the first state in history, didn't the jews come from egypt to the holy land, where others Canaanites have ben living there and jews drove them out and took the land,

the first jewish state that have started in history Thousands of years ago, occupied the land from Canaanites those who where there before them and forced their rule, so no arabs or jews have the right to own that land, in all history it is the most occupied land to a level that its Original people the Canaanites have Disappeared.

Answer 11

Moneymaker gave thorough and intensive answer, so I'll give the short version. The belief goes like this:
Jews inhabitted and ruled all of the area refferred to as Israel, Gaza and the West Bank thousands of years ago. That land was "stolen" and "occupied" by the Romans. The Arabs conquered the Romans in the area and inherrited the "occupied" area. Then, the Jews returned to their land which was (and still is) "occupied" by Arabs. This belief is compounded by the sheer lack of importance ascribed to the region by all non-Jewish nations, including the Arabs (the Crusaders were interested only in the Holy Sepulchre, and not the region itself). The conclusion from this line of reasoning is that the right and true owners of the land are the Jews, while all non-Jews who hold land in Israel (most notably the "Palestinians") are in fact "stealing" the land from the Jews, and "occupying" it.