Where do you get off spouting "Mormon theology"? You can't even understand what you are reading. I will quote the first link here
"And in nothing doth man offend God, or against none is his wrath kindled, save those who confess not his hand in all things, and obey not his commandments. "
What this means is that God is offended by us not giving all the glory to him and He is offended when we don't obey His commandments.
Your second link:
"The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;"
This is saying if you do iniquity (not obey His commandments) you will be cast out of heaven because you have offended God.
Please don't try to mis-direct people. If you want to say something negative about the mormons then you need to use some intelligence. Of course if you had any and called yourself a Christian, you wouldn't be trying to deceive people into thinking things that aren't true.
2007-07-02 22:53:13
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answered by dadof7n2001 4
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The WHOLE verse says:
21 And in NOTHING doth man offend God, or against NONE is his wrath kindled, save those who confess NOT his hand in all things, and obey NOT his commandments.
Meaning:
God isn't offended by those who confess their sins, and obey his commandments, but he is offended by those who don't confess and do not keep his commandments, his "wrath isn't kindled."
I can understand how the grammar and the double negatives of that statement can be confusing, but the verse is true.
If you do bad, God gets angry.
So with that said, and re-stated, yes, this verse is true. But not in the way you asked.
Your second citation:
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
Meaning: Jesus will gather out (as in: reject or cast out) of his kingdom all those people that offend God (the people that don't do as stated in your first citation) and all those who do inquity.
I'm not sure where you were going with this, but if you wanted to bad mouth Mormons, you should have been a little more intelligent about this.
Anyone with a little more advanced literary skills could interpret these two verses without any problems.
2007-07-02 22:59:23
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answered by Anonymous
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According to the first reference, the only thing you can do in this life that offends God is to NOT confess and repent of your sins and those who do NO keep His commandments. YES THAT IS TRUE!
The verse you chose in Matthew says nothing about casting out those who offend.
Quit picking and choosing bits and pieces of scripture. Read the entire entry. Read the surrounding verses. Pray about it, and then you will understand as God would have you understand.
You are not going to shake our faith with your sad attempts to discredit us.
2007-07-03 05:04:52
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answered by Anonymous
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God is offended, I think, by unrepentant sinners.
Here is the first verse you linked:
D&C 59:21 And in nothing doth man offend God, or against none is his wrath kindled, SAVE THOSE WHO CONFESS NOT HIS HAND IN ALL THINGS, AND OBEY NOT HIS COMMANDMENTS.
2007-07-03 15:23:55
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answered by mormon_4_jesus 7
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The blashphemy of the Holy Spirit is defined in the scripture passage as assigning the work of Christ to Satan, And it is more indicative of an attitude of the heart toward Christ than an actual word or act. Those who commit it, will not ever seek repentance. It is not something you would feel sorry for later, a spirit of repentance would be a great sign that you have not committed the act.
2007-07-02 22:44:19
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answered by Anonymous
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Proverbs 6:16-19 - Seven things that God hates
16These six things the Lord hates, indeed, seven are an abomination to Him:
17A proud look [the spirit that makes one overestimate himself and underestimate others], a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18A heart that manufactures wicked thoughts and plans, feet that are swift in running to evil,
19A false witness who breathes out lies [even under oath], and he who sows discord among his brethren
Here is an explanation of "the unforgivable sin" from a Catholic perspective - It explains basically that if you deny or refuse redemption or forgiveness, or that the possibility of them exists, then you of course will not be forgiven - that is what is meant by "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit":
From the Catholic Encyclopedia on the Unforgivable Sin
46. Against the background of what has been said so far, certain other words of Jesus, shocking and disturbing ones, become easier to understand. We might call them the words of "unforgiveness". They are reported for us by the Synoptic in connection with a particular sin which is called "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit". This is how they are reported in their three versions: Matthew: "Whoever says a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come". [180] Mark: "All sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin". [181] Luke: "Every one who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven". [182]
Why is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit unforgivable? How should this blasphemy be understood? Saint Thomas Aquinas replies that it is a question of a sin that is "unforgivable by its very nature, insofar as it excludes the elements through which the forgiveness of sin takes place. [183]
According to such an exegesis, "blasphemy" does not properly consist in offending against the Holy Spirit in words; it consists rather in the refusal to accept the salvation which God offers to man through the Holy Spirit, working through the power of the Cross. If man rejects the " convincing concerning sin" which comes from the Holy Spirit and which has the power to save, he also rejects the "coming" of the Counsellor -- that "coming" which was accomplished in the Paschal Mystery, in union with the redemptive power of Christ's Blood: the Blood which "purifies the conscience from dead works".
We know that the result of such a purification is the forgiveness of sins. Therefore, whoever rejects the Spirit and the Blood remains in "dead works", in sin. And the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit consists precisely in the radical refusal to accept this forgiveness of which he is the intimate giver and which presupposes the genuine conversion which he brings about in the conscience. If Jesus says that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven either in this life or in the next, it is because this "non-forgiveness" is linked, as to its cause, to "non-repentance", in other words to the radical refusal to be converted. This means the refusal to come to the sources of Redemption, which nevertheless remain "always" open in the economy of salvation in which the mission of the Holy Spirit is accomplished.
2007-07-02 23:08:35
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answered by the phantom 6
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I agree with what you said, but I think also by not listening to the Holy Ghost is also not forgiven. The Holy Ghost is the comforter, and is like your conscious so by ignoring him, its like your ignoring God and can keep you from doing what is right. I don't know, thats how I understand it to be.
2007-07-02 22:44:32
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answered by Anonymous
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We cannot offend him or even hurt him more than nothing. you know if noone in the world worshipped Allah, he would not be affected more than water from the sea being lost to a needle.
2007-07-02 23:02:21
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answered by Lyrical Peacemaker 2
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REMEMBER breaking his 10 Commandments means breaking His holy 7th day Sabbath. Also.
2007-07-02 22:47:25
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answered by shovelead 3
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Don't know but I do know that I find the concept of the Abrahamic god offensive to me.
2007-07-02 22:47:27
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answered by fourmorebeers 6
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