Bible question and Jesus quote part 2 let me rephrase?

Question

1. Jesus says: "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

2. Then Jesus says: "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned [to hell].

This is blatantly hypocritical. Jesus says dont smoke while smoking a cigarette. Jesus commands to Love your enemies but Jesus doesnt he burns them?

There is no rationalization or excuse you can make for Jesus here guys.... Jesus is a do as I say not as I do kinda "perfect" person???

What s not to understand Jesus tells us to love our enemies and forgive them, but Jesus does not. Logic? Lets leave logic out of the bible ok christians- we dont wan t to go down that road now do we

I would prefer to find a perfect God or Messiah that dont contradict themselves and follow their own rules thanks for playing anyway.

We all love a King and leader who dont stop at stop signs right?
Because they dont have to. They made the rule.
This simple philososphy my friends is delusional and the very reason our world will probably self destruct- gee thanks religion

Answer 1

Our Lord founded a Church (Matthew 16:18-19), not a book, which was to be the pillar and ground of Truth (1 Timothy 3:15). We can know what this Church teaches by looking not only at Sacred Scripture, but into History and by reading what the earliest Christians have written, what those who've sat on the Chair of Peter have spoken consistently with Scripture and Tradition, and what they've solemnly defined. To believe that the Bible is our only source of Christian Truth is unbiblical and illogical.

During the Reformation, primarily for doctrinal reasons, Protestants removed seven books from the Old Testament: 1 and 2 Maccabees, Sirach, Wisdom, Baruch, Tobit, and Judith, and parts of two others, Daniel and Esther. They did so even though these books had been regarded as canonical since the beginning of Church history.

When examining the question of what books were originally included in the Old Testament canon, it is important to note that some of the books of the Bible have been known by more than one name. Sirach is also known as Ecclesiasticus, 1 and 2 Chronicles as 1 and 2 Paralipomenon, Ezra and Nehemiah as 1 and 2 Esdras, and 1 and 2 Samuel with 1 and 2 Kings as 1, 2, 3, and 4 Kings—that is, 1 and 2 Samuel are named 1 and 2 Kings, and 1 and 2 Kings are named 3 and 4 Kings. The history and use of these designations is explained more fully in Scripture reference works.


"To get the full flavor of an herb, it must be pressed between the fingers, so it is the same with the Scriptures; the more familiar they become, the more they reveal their hidden treasures and yield their indescribable riches."-- St. John Chrysostom, A.D. 347-407



The Process of Lectio Divina
A VERY ANCIENT art, practiced at one time by all Christians, is the technique known as lectio divina - a slow, contemplative praying of the Scriptures which enables the Bible, the Word of God, to become a means of union with God. This ancient practice has been kept alive in the Christian monastic tradition. Together with the Liturgy and daily manual labor, time set aside in a special way for lectio divina enables us to discover in our daily life an underlying spiritual rhythm. Within this rhythm we discover an increasing ability to offer more of ourselves and our relationships to God, and to accept the embrace that God is continuously extending to us in the person of Jesus Christ.

Lectio - reading/listening
THE ART of lectio divina begins with cultivating the ability to listen deeply. When we read the Scriptures we should try to imitate the prophet Elijah. We should allow ourselves to become women and men who are able to listen for the still, small voice of God (I Kings 19:12); the "faint murmuring sound" which is God's word for us, God's voice touching our hearts. This gentle listening is an "attunement" to the presence of God in that special part of God's creation which is the Scriptures.

THE CRY of the prophets to ancient Israel was the joy-filled command to "Listen!" "Sh'ma Israel: Hear, O Israel!" In lectio divina we, too, heed that command and turn to the Scriptures, knowing that we must "hear" - listen- to the voice of God, which often speaks very softly. In order to hear someone speaking softly we must learn to be silent. We must learn to love silence. If we are constantly speaking or if we are surrounded with noise, we cannot hear gentle sounds. The practice of lectio divina, therefore, requires that we first quiet down in order to hear God's word to us. This is the first step of lectio divina, appropriately called lectio - reading.

THE READING or listening which is the first step in lectio divina is very different from the speed reading which modern Christians apply to newspapers, books and even to the Bible. Lectio is reverential listening; listening both in a spirit of silence and of awe. We are listening for the still, small voice of God that will speak to us personally - not loudly, but intimately. In lectio we read slowly, attentively, gently listening to hear a word or phrase that is God's word for us this day.

Meditation
ONCE WE have found a word or a passage in the Scriptures which speaks to us in a personal way, we must take it in and "ruminate" on it. The image of the ruminant animal quietly chewing its cud was used in antiquity as a symbol of the Christian pondering the Word of God. Christians have always seen a scriptural invitation to lectio divina in the example of the Virgin Mary "pondering in her heart" what she saw and heard of Christ (Luke 2:19). For us today these images are a reminder that we must take in the word - that is, memorize it - and while gently repeating it to ourselves, allow it to interact with our thoughts, our hopes, our memories, our desires. This is the second step or stage in lectio divina - meditation. Through meditation we allow God's word to become His word for us, a word that touches us and affects us at our deepest levels.

Prayer
THE THIRD step in lectio divina is prayer: prayer understood both as dialogue with God, that is, as loving conversation with the One who has invited us into an embrace; and as consecration, prayer as the priestly offering to God of those parts of ourselves that we have not previously believed God wants. In this consecration-prayer we allow the word that we have taken in and on which we are pondering to touch and change our deepest selves. Just as a priest consecrates the elements of bread and wine at the Eucharist, God invites us in lectio divina to hold up our most difficult and pain-filled experiences, and to gently recite over them the healing word or phrase God has given us in our lectio and meditation. In this prayer, this consecration-prayer, we allow our real selves to be touched and changed by the Word of God.

Contemplation
FINALLY, WE simply rest in the presence of the One who has used the Scripture word as a means of inviting us to accept a transforming embrace. No one who has ever been in love needs to be reminded that there are moments in loving relationships when words are unnecessary. It is the same in our relationship with God. Wordless, quiet rest in the presence of the One who loves us has a name in the Christian tradition - contemplation. Once again we practice silence, letting go of our own words; this time simply enjoying the experience of being in the presence of God.




"Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ." -- St. Jerome, A.D. 340-420

Answer 2

Here's the problem:
Mankind is subject to the authority of Jesus.
Jesus will judge and if necessary, condemn.
We do not have the ability to condemn, so we are to love our enemies. (we have already judged them to be our enemies.)

There's no contradiction. Man and Jesus have different roles.
(Though while on Earth, Jesus fulfilled the concept you quote. Now in heaven, He is under no order because His Father has turned all judgment over to Him. )

Answer 3

Is God just and righteous? If so, He must deal with evil. A good judge would not be very good if he let murderers and rapists off free would he? In the same way, God deals justice to those who deserve it. Who deserves to be punished? Everyone. You probably know the verse, "for all have sinned...." Just as justice is a part of God's character, so is mercy. God is both good and merciful. If you read Exodus 34, you will see this description of God.

"The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation."

Although God delights in forgiving, He must punish the unrepentant. That is why He says to preach the GOOD NEWS! What is the good news? That we can repent of our sins and be saved by God's mercy! What is naturally going to happen if we refuse that gift? We are condemning ourselves.
To sum up and combine those two verses, I would say it is like Jesus saying this, "While on earth, love everyone like I loved them, you will be my hands and feet caring for the world. Do this so men will be drawn to me and experience salvation. I don't want anyone lost." Do you see how those can fit together? They are not in conflict. I hope this helps and you are open to hearing the good news. Jesus wants everyone to accept His free gift. You too.

Answer 4

Think of it this way I guess....In Christian faith you have to believe in god, jesus and that he died for your sins. In your life you will do things to hurt people, cause pain and others will do the same to you. If you forgive others and ask for forgivness you will be forgiven. If you don't believe in god, you will not go to heaven. But you still can go to heaven if you hurt people and ask for forgivness provided you really mean it and accept god. I probably didn't word that to well, but that is it in a nutshell. I don't think god thinks of non believers as enemies. He gives us a choice to believe or not. Either you believe that or you dont. The first step to heaven is believing in god. Without that your basically screwed. Hope that helps

Answer 5

Not true. Look a little closer. Jesus was saying that you are to tell the people of the world about him for a second chance, and if they do not believe, and ignore this, then they are condemned to Hell. EVERYONE gets a chance to hear the Good News at least once in their lifetime. He promised that in the Bible. Look closer.

Answer 6

You can throw out the Bible and not believe, and there will still be truth of Christ. Jesus is still savior of all mankind and the world is still better because of him.

If you thumbs down this it's only because you doubt His greatness.

Answer 7

The last two paragraphs don't make much sense when referring to #1 and #2.

What you are saying #1 and #2 says is right except the 2nd paragraph in #2. Whats your problem with them?

Need references please. Pops

Answer 8

If Jesus were a human only, you might have a point. If he was God Incarnate, Creator of the Universe, and Judge of all the earth...then what's your beef?

Answer 9

No it isn't. Both of those charges are with good intentions. 1) Be good to people 2) Try to save them

Look. What if you are in the middle of the ocean, stranded, and someone says, "Get in this lifeboat or you will drown"

Do you say, "Oh you mean person! You are threatening me with drowning! How are you! "Get in this lifeboat or die"! How cruel of you!"

Or do you say, "Thanks, you saved my life" and get in.

Apparently you prefer the first.

Answer 10

This is a self claimed benevolent God's behavior.

Answer 11

You are mis quoting Scripture.

We are already condemned to Hell. You don't do anything to get there.Jesus can save you from going to where you're headed.