For all you unbelievers...?

Question

Do you really think that this earth was created by chance?? The earth being created out of complete randomness has just the same chance that if i dump a mess of legos into a box, shake it, and it will create a house. Look at everything around you. How complex everything is, someone must have created this. God is the creater. Where do you expect to go when you die?? Nowhere?? Heaven and Hell are real. Just as real as everything around you.

I'm a Lutheran.

Read the Bible. God has been there since the beginning of time itself.

God works in mysterious ways. God gave Marry her son. The Son of God, Jesus Christ.

God Himself gave man the words to put into the Bible.

2 Timothy 3:14-17:


But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

We're told that Scripture is God-breathed. That's a wonderful term. It says that even though these words were penned by a human being, preached by a human being, announced in the world from a human soul, they are the breath of God breathing out of a human instrument. Someone who plays a wind instrument breathes music out of the instrument they're playing. And God has instruments through whom he has breathed.

Answer 1

Where do you people get this nonsense?

Science doesn't say that the universe came about by "complete randomness". You seem to think that the choices are "intentional design" and "complete randomness", and that anything that doesn't include intentional design is completely random. That's simply false. There is of course the possibility that it came about by natural processes.

In fact the universe is quite clearly far too complex to have been the result of intentional design processes. Even some of our current products (e.g., computer algorithms) are butting up against the limits of intentional design, which is why we're resorting to evolutionary processes to design complex things.

Your advice that we "read the Bible" ignores the fact that the Bible is false. It doesn't tell us anything about the origin of the universe.

If Heaven and Hell are "just as real as everything around" me, show me a photograph. You can't do it, because you're simply lying. Doesn't the fact that you have to lie this much to defend your beliefs tell you something about the quality of those beliefs? It should.

"And God has instruments through whom he has breathed".

Nope. That's false too. There isn't any "god", and telling these same lies over and over again gets you nowhere.

Answer 2

I do not believe that this earth was created by chance, not for a minute. I don't believe in chance, I believe that everyone is placed/born where they should be, and that there is reason behind everything. I don't believe in Heaven and Hell to the extremes that some do, as in the whole firrey pit, etc. I think we can all achieve our places in different degrees after wedie. It wouldn't make much sense that you either get to go to this one great place, or hell(bad, terrible, fire, blah, blah). People aren't like that, they aren't all good or all bad. I think hell is just disappointment of knowing you could have done better, you could have done more.

I think that some Christian religions do exaggerate and take certain things out of context, not always on purpose of course, but then looking at the other extreme there, with what's her face, (the girl with the red star symbol), she had some pretty far out there ideas as well, and can't really act like Christians are nuts either. And as for the whole "which god is the right god?" deal, I don;t think it matters what you call your god. I think it all originated from the same place, and that people and the world have changed it.

I know that Heaven is real, that God does exist, and that He isn't an angry, controlling God. He loves us and wants the best for His children. Even when they turn their backs, His arms are still, and always stretched out. I think it is sad that so many people do not know the nature of God. They think he is an angry, judgmental God, and it makes so many turn away from Him, but I can say this, and I "know" that this is not the case. No matter what, He will always be there, calling you back, giving you opportunities to get closer to Him.

And you can't "prove" this to a person. You have to learn this for yourself. Cool quote:
"We are born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It is not just in some of us; it is in everyone. As we let our own Light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same." ~Nelson Mandela

ps. Paul S, You sound like an ignorant fool. It is not just Christians who speak of this, it is scientist, the poets, people who aren't as close minded, and they can see more than just themselves. Can see there is more out there, that perhaps we don't know everything. "It is better to open your eyes and say you don't understand, than to close your eyes and say you don't believe." Just because you don't understand something, doesn't make it any less true.

Answer 3

I am afraid that your comparison is wrong. The chances are not anywhere near similar. The chances of the universe coming about by chance are very high indeed if not 1. So the creation of Earth is not at all unexpected according to physics. The chances of life occuring on earth is not so good, however that is the chance that Life will occur on Earth assuming you did not know that Earth would have life. If you say that the universe will have life somewhere and it would be complex and diverse then again the chances are so high they may as well be 1. The universe is a massive place so there was always going to be at least one place with spontaneous life forming. That place would most likely be having the same debates we are having now.

Answer 4

I believe the Earth (and everything else) happened by chance. Physics and mathematics make this possible.

Believe it or not, it is less complex to think the universe happened by chance than to say some higher power caused it to happen. As this involves more variables than we can actually perceive - i.e. it involves the assumption that there is something outside the universe.

If there is a chance that something will happen, no matter how small, that means that the more times it is attempted, the more likely it is to occur. So in effect, the more time there is in the universe, the more likely an Earth-like planet is to exist within it.

I don't expect to go anywhere when I die, this is scary, but I don't feel the need to protect myself from it. Heaven and Hell seem less real to me because I have no proof of their existence - I've never seen or experienced them.

No intention to insult anyone here, just expressing my views.

Answer 5

The Big Bang is more plausible then "poof" everything just appeared.
Heaven and hell are NOT real, just a way to force people to do good.

If god created this, than who created god?

Edit:
do you really think god just appeared by chance? Surely something had to create the creator?

Edit #2
read the bible?
Right a book that was written by man.
Another attempt to use circular reasoning to explain how things came into being.

Answer 6

Unfortunately you are assuming what you are looking at is a house - it is not - it is a mess of lego which you happen to be used to and like the look of (because you have never seen a properly built lego house to compare it with). It is not complex it is embarrassingly random - oh and when I die the worms will eat me - and you...

Answer 7

Why does it have to be YOUR God who created everything, and why does it have to be YOUR concept of the afterlife (Heaven/Hell) that is correct?

Where's your proof?


"Read the Bible" isn't an answer. A book whose only claim to the truth is "because the book itself says it's the truth" is hardly a credible source.

Answer 8

What has not believing in god got to do with believing the earth was created by chance.?

Answer 9

because Christianity is a man made religion that hasn’t evolved physically or naturally for years like others have.

QUSTIONS NO CHRISTIAN HAS ANSWERED FOR ME:

how is marry a virgin if she had a kid?

what about gods in other religions? they actually have names and are known for something rather then creating the whole universe.

whats so bad about hell? how do people know for sure that you will suffer there?

THE HISTORY:
back when the old religion was being made (wiccan/pagens) they believed in two deity’s the god of hunting and the god of fertility. Sense the animals they have hunted mostly had horns they believed that their hunting god had horns also. it is commonly said that the god of an old religion became the devil of a new one. Sense the Christians devil had horns the Christians believed that the wiccans and pagans must be devil worshipers! just because they believed in their hunting god that had horns.

i dont need a god to "make" me happy, i dont want to go through my life being judged on my actions in a resale of what god my think or where i'm going to end up when i die. I just want to go on with life free spirited.......Why waste my time going to church on a stupid creature that know one knows thats actually real.

Christianity gives no freedom whats so ever, its like why be a slave to a god that doenst exist? I have took my time to read about the history which Christians should to because it gives total facts and detail about how it started. I have read alot about it and it makes complete sense about the hypocrisy of Christianity.

This is only my opinion and i just want to say i dont have anything against Christians or Christianity but it gives no freedom to people .

i'm not sure what my religion is sense i dont have total proof on things, its hard for me to just pick one and follow it because there’s things that believe in and things i dont.


i think the one religion closest to the one i really think fits me is wiccan because. Most Christians put a stereotype on it because of the past with the whole hunting god thing. Also from the past the wiccans would do a ritual to help their crops grow taller (in which they believed). They would jump around hopping high in the hair jumping up and down with poles and sticks and what ever. The Christians saw this from afar and spoke to see that they were flying around on broom sticks this must be the work of the devil! This is so stupid (to the Christians that is) because they weren’t clearly flying through the air it was a simple ritual. Thats how the whole witch on a broom stick matter came about all because the Christians over exaggerated. .....

i would tell more but its to long of a story...

Answer 10

So what your saying is that the house of Lego's i have on my shelf that just appeared when i dumped the box out was made bi gremlins?