Our Lord founded a Church (Matthew 16:18-19), not a book, which was to be the pillar and ground of Truth (1 Timothy 3:15). We can know what this Church teaches by looking not only at Sacred Scripture, but into History and by reading what the earliest Christians have written, what those who've sat on the Chair of Peter have spoken consistently with Scripture and Tradition, and what they've solemnly defined. To believe that the Bible is our only source of Christian Truth is unbiblical and illogical.
During the Reformation, primarily for doctrinal reasons, Protestants removed seven books from the Old Testament: 1 and 2 Maccabees, Sirach, Wisdom, Baruch, Tobit, and Judith, and parts of two others, Daniel and Esther. They did so even though these books had been regarded as canonical since the beginning of Church history.
When examining the question of what books were originally included in the Old Testament canon, it is important to note that some of the books of the Bible have been known by more than one name. Sirach is also known as Ecclesiasticus, 1 and 2 Chronicles as 1 and 2 Paralipomenon, Ezra and Nehemiah as 1 and 2 Esdras, and 1 and 2 Samuel with 1 and 2 Kings as 1, 2, 3, and 4 Kings—that is, 1 and 2 Samuel are named 1 and 2 Kings, and 1 and 2 Kings are named 3 and 4 Kings. The history and use of these designations is explained more fully in Scripture reference works.
"To get the full flavor of an herb, it must be pressed between the fingers, so it is the same with the Scriptures; the more familiar they become, the more they reveal their hidden treasures and yield their indescribable riches."-- St. John Chrysostom, A.D. 347-407
The Process of Lectio Divina
A VERY ANCIENT art, practiced at one time by all Christians, is the technique known as lectio divina - a slow, contemplative praying of the Scriptures which enables the Bible, the Word of God, to become a means of union with God. This ancient practice has been kept alive in the Christian monastic tradition. Together with the Liturgy and daily manual labor, time set aside in a special way for lectio divina enables us to discover in our daily life an underlying spiritual rhythm. Within this rhythm we discover an increasing ability to offer more of ourselves and our relationships to God, and to accept the embrace that God is continuously extending to us in the person of Jesus Christ.
Lectio - reading/listening
THE ART of lectio divina begins with cultivating the ability to listen deeply. When we read the Scriptures we should try to imitate the prophet Elijah. We should allow ourselves to become women and men who are able to listen for the still, small voice of God (I Kings 19:12); the "faint murmuring sound" which is God's word for us, God's voice touching our hearts. This gentle listening is an "attunement" to the presence of God in that special part of God's creation which is the Scriptures.
THE CRY of the prophets to ancient Israel was the joy-filled command to "Listen!" "Sh'ma Israel: Hear, O Israel!" In lectio divina we, too, heed that command and turn to the Scriptures, knowing that we must "hear" - listen- to the voice of God, which often speaks very softly. In order to hear someone speaking softly we must learn to be silent. We must learn to love silence. If we are constantly speaking or if we are surrounded with noise, we cannot hear gentle sounds. The practice of lectio divina, therefore, requires that we first quiet down in order to hear God's word to us. This is the first step of lectio divina, appropriately called lectio - reading.
THE READING or listening which is the first step in lectio divina is very different from the speed reading which modern Christians apply to newspapers, books and even to the Bible. Lectio is reverential listening; listening both in a spirit of silence and of awe. We are listening for the still, small voice of God that will speak to us personally - not loudly, but intimately. In lectio we read slowly, attentively, gently listening to hear a word or phrase that is God's word for us this day.
Meditation
ONCE WE have found a word or a passage in the Scriptures which speaks to us in a personal way, we must take it in and "ruminate" on it. The image of the ruminant animal quietly chewing its cud was used in antiquity as a symbol of the Christian pondering the Word of God. Christians have always seen a scriptural invitation to lectio divina in the example of the Virgin Mary "pondering in her heart" what she saw and heard of Christ (Luke 2:19). For us today these images are a reminder that we must take in the word - that is, memorize it - and while gently repeating it to ourselves, allow it to interact with our thoughts, our hopes, our memories, our desires. This is the second step or stage in lectio divina - meditation. Through meditation we allow God's word to become His word for us, a word that touches us and affects us at our deepest levels.
Prayer
THE THIRD step in lectio divina is prayer: prayer understood both as dialogue with God, that is, as loving conversation with the One who has invited us into an embrace; and as consecration, prayer as the priestly offering to God of those parts of ourselves that we have not previously believed God wants. In this consecration-prayer we allow the word that we have taken in and on which we are pondering to touch and change our deepest selves. Just as a priest consecrates the elements of bread and wine at the Eucharist, God invites us in lectio divina to hold up our most difficult and pain-filled experiences, and to gently recite over them the healing word or phrase God has given us in our lectio and meditation. In this prayer, this consecration-prayer, we allow our real selves to be touched and changed by the Word of God.
Contemplation
FINALLY, WE simply rest in the presence of the One who has used the Scripture word as a means of inviting us to accept a transforming embrace. No one who has ever been in love needs to be reminded that there are moments in loving relationships when words are unnecessary. It is the same in our relationship with God. Wordless, quiet rest in the presence of the One who loves us has a name in the Christian tradition - contemplation. Once again we practice silence, letting go of our own words; this time simply enjoying the experience of being in the presence of God.
"Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ." -- St. Jerome, A.D. 340-420
2007-07-03 07:10:45
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answered by cashelmara 7
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It's not really biblical. Its a doctrine to support the view that Jesus was God himself. Jesus never said he was God. As a matter of fact Jesus said:
Pray to the father
Worship the father
The father was Jesus' God
Why call Jesus good, only God (YHWH) is good
In John 1 that's the closest thing to Jesus being God that there is in the bible and that's man's assertion.
Even doubting Thomas - that was a man who called Jesus a god (but not God the Father - YHWH.)
However even that section is dubious as it is not in the oldest and best manuscripts.
The trinity appears to be added for whatever reasons.
The king james bible even go far as to add a verse about the trinity which was not in the original manuscripts. Though that verse is removed from better translations.
Go ahead and look:
1 john 5:7
read it in KJV and NASB for example. It was added much later.
2007-07-02 07:43:19
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answered by Emperor Insania Says Bye! 5
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The Trinity consists of three Persons: Genesis 1:1; 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8; 48:16; 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17; Matt 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14. In the passages in the Old Testament, a knowledge of Hebrew is helpful. In Genesis 1:1, the plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for "us" is used. That "Elohim" and "us" refer to more than two is WITHOUT question. In English, you only have two forms, singular and plural. In Hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. Dual is for two ONLY. In Hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun "us" are plural forms - definitely more than two - and must be referring to three or more (Father, Son, Holy Spirit).
In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of 3 distinct persons in the Trinity.
2007-07-02 07:39:36
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answered by Freedom 7
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At best the bible only 'hints' at a trinity.
Whereas the bible is very clear that the Jesus is an image of God. (2 Cor. 4:4; Heb 1:3)
The bible is very clear that the Father is greater than Jesus.
(John 14:28)
Jesus said to know the only true God, his Father. (John 17:3)
Jesus' said his Father is his God. (Rev 3:12)
John said The God and Father of Jesus (Rev 1:6)
Peter said the God and Father of Jesus Christ (1 Pet 1:3)
Paul said we should have the same attitude of Christ in glorifing his God and Father. (Rom 15:5,6)
I hope this helps.
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2007-07-02 09:36:06
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answered by TeeM 7
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1 john 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
2007-07-02 07:40:35
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answered by Anonymous
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There is not a single verse that says specifically that God is a triune god (ie. trinity). Any verses that "support" this teaching is "reading into" the verse.
To the contrary there are scores of verses that tell us that Jehovah God is the One True God, and Jesus is his SON
2007-07-02 07:43:00
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answered by Audrey O 2
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In Genesis 1:26, God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness....” Notice the inspired Word of God here quotes God referring to Himself by using “Us,” and “Our.” This verse, as well as others, shows that although God is one, He has three distinct persons. These personalities are separate in function, yet one in thought and purpose. They are unified as one, perfect, complete God!
Notice the distinct personalities in the following verses. In Ephesians 4:6, Paul said, “one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” Paul refers here to the one God, known as the “Father.” Matthew 1:23 says, “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel, which is translated, ‘God with us.’" Here we see a reference to God, the “Son” (John 3:16). Finally in Acts 5:3-4, we see the final personality of God: “But Peter said, ‘Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.’" Here Peter told Ananias that he had not lied to men but to God, the “Holy Spirit!” These three personalities make up the one Godhead!
2007-07-02 07:40:56
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answered by TG 4
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Yes the Bible does discuss the trinity please read on
what is taking a scripture out of context: wouldn’t that be if that one scripture didn’t agree with many others on the
same subject, if that is so, then how can you take the misquoted scripture at Jo 1:1 (WHICH really is a scribal error
or by a trinatarian) and say that it means that the “Word” is God himself, when the following scriptures all say
different:
(1 Corinthians 11:3) But I want YOU to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the
man; in turn the head of the Christ is God. . .
(John 20:17) . . .Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my
brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’. . .
(Hebrews 5:7-8) 7 In the days of his flesh [Christ] offered up supplications and also petitions to the One who was able to save
him out of death, with strong outcries and tears, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. 8 Although he was a Son, he
learned obedience from the things he suffered;
(John 3:16) 16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith
in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. . .
(John 14:28) . . .YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would
rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am. . .
(Matthew 16:16-17) 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said
to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jo´nah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the
heavens did.
(Hebrews 9:24) 24 For Christ entered, not into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven
itself, now to appear before the person of God for us. . .
(Matthew 20:23) 23 He said to them: “YOU will indeed drink my cup, but this sitting down at my right hand and at my left is
not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.”
(Colossians 2:8-9) 8 Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry YOU off as his prey through the philosophy and
empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ;
(Ephesians 2:20) 20 and YOU have been built up upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus
himself is the foundation cornerstone. . .
(1 Peter 2:4-6) 4 Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God, 5 YOU
yourselves also as living stones are being built up a spiritual house for the purpose of a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual
sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For it is contained in Scripture: “Look! I am laying in Zion a stone, chosen, a
foundation cornerstone, precious; and no one exercising faith in it will by any means come to disappointment.”
so which scripture is out of context can only be Jo 1:1 which doesn’t agree with all the others
(Matthew 27:46) . . .About the ninth hour Jesus called out with a loud voice, saying: “E´li, E´li, la´ma sa·bach·tha´ni?” that is,
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
American standard Phil 2 : 6. who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a
thing to be grasped, 7. but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men;
KJV Phil 2:. 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7. But made himself of
no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
2007-07-02 15:22:51
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answered by zorrro857 4
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The trinity is idolatry
2007-07-02 07:37:49
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answered by Quantrill 7
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its flawed buddy
2007-07-02 07:38:18
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answered by Anonymous
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