I just started going to church and doing bible study, but i have a question regarding Jesus and Moses?

Question

Yes, i'm 27 years old and just started going to church, thanks to my wife. I like it and am very interested. I am also doing bible studies with our pastor 1 time a week. We are studying the gospel of John right now, and also Exodus. But i have a question , i hope it makes sense.......

Didn't GOD give the 10 commandments to Moses so that the people would follow them? And if thats true, then how come in the chapter John of the new testimate, Jesus tells people pretty much not to follow those? Jesus is GODS son, so how come they both said 2 different things, if they are one?

I hope this makes sense, i am not trying to be mean or anything. I am just asking so i can learn and continue in my bible studies. I just was a little confused about this part.

One of the commandments said to keep the Sbath holy, and do not work on that day. But Jesus said that GOD nevers stops working, so we shouldn't either. He performed many of his miracles on the Sabath. Why is this contrdicting?

Answer 1

Ill give you 2 perspectives.

1. the old testament was only meant for the jewish people. Jesus came to both Jews and Gentiles, so the law had to be modified by jesus to accomodate people like tax collectors, samaritans e.t.c.

Answer 2

so which IS THE WORD of GOD? old testament or new?
I will tell yoiu something else you may or may not know.
did you know there are missing gospels? oh yeah, in 1947 some parchments were found that are supposedly about Jesus himself, written BY Jesus himself. The exact contents of the parchments have not been divulged by the vatican.and let me tell you the Vatican holds more secrets than the pentagon. The Mary Magdalene gospel is available on the internet to read provided it is not made up.There are many passages missing from that text by the way. why cant the truth come out? The vattican would experience a global crisis of faith if they revealed all they know about the life and times of Jresus Christ. and remember the bible has gone thru so many translations and Kings of men deciding which bits were important enough to keep. My guess is there exists or did exist enough information that would fill another bible size book. It has been reported or rumored if you will that King James himself had to decide which part of God's "word" to leave out of the bible.

Answer 3

Nine of the original Ten Commandments are summed up in the three commands Jesus gave to His church.

1. Love God

2. Love your neighbor

3. Love one another

There are actually 613 commands in the Law of Moses and these were nailed to the tree along with Jesus and cancelled. See Colossians chapter 2 about this.

The Sabbath law was only meant for the Jews and never anyone else.

Jesus is saying you don't need to worry about those 613 commands which you couldn't keep anyway.

Just worry about the three.

Does that make sense?

Pastor Art

PS: As others have requested, I too would like to see the exact passage you are referring to and I'd also like to know what type, which denomination of church you are attending.

Answer 4

In your studies, do some other research. Remember the bible (what there now is left of it) is simply the musing, folk lore and history of one rather small tribe of starving stone age shepherds. Taken in this light, you as well ought to be studying holy books of other tribes in the area at the same time. As for Moses, and the 10 commandments, those come originally from the set of 12 denials, that each Egyptian had to recite as he entered the Valley of Reeds on what amounted to his judgment day (the weighing of his heart). (If you wish to know more, find a copy of the Book of Ani, Book of the Dead, more properly translated as The Book for Going Forth by Day. These 12 denials precede Moses by some 1200 years. All of the present bible looks little as it did years ago, and things that were unfavorable to the thinking in England in the 1600, were omitted.... the Gospel according to Philip, Thomas and Judas have all been expunged. You can google all of this to begin your sources, and you can get books from amazon that compare the gospels that are still in the bible.... Likely they had a common source, and you can find and study that as well. Just remember, that the Tribe of Israel did not live in isolation, and traded ideas as well as goods and services with other tribes around them.

Your issue with god and jesus, about split the church apart in 330 AD. This was included in the problem as well as whether or not Jesus could be man and god at the same time. At Nicenae it was settled.... He could be both, and that was the end of it. From that earth shattering conference, we got the Nicene Creed... read it. It is still recited in churches today..... The issue was declared a none-issue ----- end of argument.

Church history is full of contradictions... Just remember one thing.... it was always about power and money... ALWAYS

Answer 5

Sweetie, where exactly in John does Jesus say to not follow the 10 commandments. I have never read that in the Bible. The Word of God does not contradict itself, it may seem like it does to us, but if we study it, we will find that it does not. Jesus does want us to follow the 10 commandments. Good luck in your bible studies and I am glad that you are finally going to church.

Answer 6

No one can keep the Ten Commandments on their own. The Bible says that all are condemned by the law no one is justified and all are condemned; but through Jesus we will be saved I think that you might go to www.wayofthemaster.com. On that site you might understand better. Plus things will become clearer as you develop your owe personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Answer 7

Uh, yeah.... God gave moses the Ten Commandments. Those were for those people to live by. Later, Jesus came and "died for a new covenant", meaning that we dont have to obey those ten commandments anymore. This is why Christians eat shellfish now (which is an abomination to God, according to Leviticus), but still look to Leviticus to spread hate regarding homosexuality.

Ask your pastor why there is absolutely ZERO historical evidence for 40K+ jewish slaves leaving Egypt.... The Egyptians kept detailed records, including how much wheat and grain they had grown each year - but they didnt bother writing down that some Jew told the Pharoh to get stuffed and walked out of Egypt with 40K+ slaves in tow??

Answer 8

This is a very complex subject, so I'm going to explain it in the simplest terms possible. The laws given through Moses served several purposes; ONE of those purposes was to convey certain concepts to the Jews in a symbolic way. When Jesus came, He explained what this symbolism meant. THEREFORE, we say that Jesus "fulfilled the Law," but He didn't "destroy it." (See Matthew 5:17.)

Here's an example of symbolic meaning in the law and fulfillment through Jesus:

The sacrificial laws given by God through Moses are referred to as the "Levitical sacrificial laws." Each of the different Levitical sacrificial laws required a perfect sacrifice and the blood sacrificial laws required that the animal be perfect. The sinner placed his or her hand upon the animal, thus "transferring" the sin to the animal, which was then slain and its blood sprinkled according to the law's requirements.

Jesus' sacrificial death on the cross FULFILLED all the symbolism of the Levitical sacrificial laws. Therefore, the prior system, which consisted of symbols only, isn't necessary. So He didn't get rid of the laws, He explained what they really meant.

Answer 9

There are three types of OT laws: Civil (government), ceremonial (pointing to a Messiah - Jesus), and moral. Of all the OT laws, only about 6% can be applied outside the State of Israel. That fact, along with all the laws that were fulfilled with Jesus' death on the cross, basically eliminates all the civil and ceremonial laws. That leaves us with the moral laws to ponder.

Moral laws applied to pre-Israel, Israel, and post-Israel. The NT confirms that the moral laws are still in effect (homosexuality, adultery, etc.). All of the Ten Commandments were repeated again in the NT except keeping the Sabbath (the principle of one day of rest still applies, just not necessarily on Saturday). The NT also confirmed it isn't just the action that is wrong, but also the "thought" behind a wrong action (Matt. 5:27-28).

Remember, the law can't save you (Gal. 2:21). But we will be judged according to its righteous standard as it applies to us (I Cor. 3:13-15).

Answer 10

in the 10 commandment the first 5 tell you how to Love God and the last 5 tells you how to love your neighbor. Everything else Jesus taught was to help understand and live the 10 commandments...and the 10 commandments help us to understand and live the 2 greatest commandments. Hope that helps.

Answer 11

Thats awesome that you have started going to church and are seeking out God. God sent Jesus Christ to the earth to take our place and die for our sins but also to bring about a new way of life. Jesus coming broke the old traditions and rituals that people h ad been following. He took the previous commandments and molded them but he didnt destroy them. For example, he said that it is wrong to murder someone, but its just as wrong to murder them with our minds. This Christianity that was birthed is a lifechanging one in which you must put your way of life to death. The old testament shows us the way to the New testament and the new way of life. Grr, I'm not very good at putting my thoughts into words...sorry...but if you want to talk, id love to chat with you about this subject