Why do people keep referring to a "holy trinity" when such a thing doesn't even exist in KJV?

Question

And if it does, please tell me the verse.

Answer 1

NO, it doesn't, the truth about it is:

According to books on the history of the Roman church, Tertullian of Carthage, was the first "religious" person to use the word "trinity". The idea of the trinity put two of the most important bishops of Christianity against each other. Arius, a faithful monotheistic believer, and Alexander, still incline to his past pagan beliefs. There was no "Pope" at this time, papacy was instituted around the 500s AD. There is no evidence that Peter was the first pope, in fact, Jewish history books say that Peter and Andrew were killed in Jerusalem when coming out of a church meeting and that Peter was never in Rome.

The Roman Emperor Constantine the Great, as greedy and ambitious as he was and knowing that the empire was already declining, feared that the fight between Arius and Alenxander could divide the empire. Constantine was a pagan, worshipper of Mithra, the sun god. The emperor was aware of the political power that Christians were developing and he also new about the financial success of the Jews. Constantine wanted both, the political power of the Christians and the money of the Jews. In 325 AD, the emperor called for a meeting that was called the Nicean Council, in which Constantine himself imposed the trinity doctrine, and declared Christianity the official religion of Rome. Arius was condemned for his opposition to the trinity doctrine and was sent to exile. Today even history books in schools teach that Constantine was the first Christian Emperor of Rome, when the truth is that he was a pagan all his life and converted into Christianity in his deathbed.

Answer 2

That is because the King James version is what it says- it is a "version"of the bible.
Trace this rift by researching dogma between protestants and catholics in the 16th century. This subject is discussed in high school or university in theory of knowledge, humanities, Western philosophy, theology etc.
In all religions, there are historical breakaway factions that result from differences of opinion. This is the reason why we have different churches in the various faiths. This is one of the many. The Protestant faction did not truly endorse the "spirit" in the holy trinity of the Father, the Son and the holy ghost or spirit. Neither did it support the belief in Mary
One of the answers alluded to pagan beliefs during the writing of the later books of the bible. Historically, this is plausible. There was a great difficulty during those times to unify people into a one belief movement (religious control). The pagans were probably happy in their belief in universal spirits that united humans with the earth, trees and other animals in a kinship of cooperative life on earth. However, that organization did not result in power for certain groups of men. To attract these pagans, the writers may have had to employ a semblance of "spirit" into the equation, so that might have resulted in a few sentences here and there.

Answer 3

Did Jesus and his disciples teach the doctrine of the Trinity? Did church leaders of the next several centuries teach it? How did it originate? And why is it important to know the truth about this belief?

THOSE who accept the Bible as God’s Word recognize that they have a responsibility to teach others about the Creator. They also realize that the substance of what they teach about God must be true. Some have concluded that simply ascribing deity or godship to Jesus is all that the Trinity teaching means. For others, belief in the Trinity simply means belief in Father, Son, and holy spirit.

However, a close examination of Christendom’s creeds exposes how woefully inadequate such ideas are in relation to the formal doctrine. Official definitions make it clear that the Trinity doctrine is not a simple idea. Instead, it is a complex set of separate ideas that have been brought together over a long period of time and interlocked into one another.

From the picture of the Trinity doctrine that appeared after the Council of Constantinople in 381 C.E., from the Tome of Damasus in 382 C.E., from the Athanasian Creed that came some time later, and from other documents, we can clearly determine what Christendom means by the Trinity doctrine. It includes the following definite ideas:

1. There are said to be three divine persons—the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit—in the Godhead.

2. Each of these separate persons is said to be eternal, none coming before or after the other in time.

3. Each is said to be almighty, with none greater or lesser than the other.

4. Each is said to be omniscient, knowing all things.

5. Each is said to be true God.

6. However, it is said that there are not three Gods but only one God.

Clearly the Trinity doctrine is a complex set of ideas including at least the above vital elements and involving even more, as revealed when the details are examined. But if we consider only the above basic ideas, it is apparent that if any are removed, what remains is no longer Christendom’s Trinity. To have the complete picture, all these pieces must be present.

Keep in mind that the Scriptures are “inspired of God” and are to be used for “setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:16, 17) So the Bible is complete in doctrinal matters. If the Trinity doctrine is true, it should be there.

We invite you to search the Bible, especially the 27 books of the Christian Greek Scriptures, to see for yourself if Jesus and his disciples taught a Trinity. As you search, ask yourself:

1. Can I find any scripture that mentions “Trinity”?

2. Can I find any scripture that says that God is made up of three distinct persons, Father, Son, and holy spirit, but that the three are only one God?

3. Can I find any scripture that says that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom?

Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity, nor will you find any that says that Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. Not even a single scripture says that the Son is equal to the Father in those ways—and if there were such a scripture, it would establish not a Trinity but at most a “duality.” Nowhere does the Bible equate the holy spirit with the Father.

Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. It was not until the 4th century that the distinctness of the three and their unity were brought together in a single orthodox doctrine of one essence and three persons.

Trinitarians may say that the Bible “implies” a Trinity. But this claim is made long after the Bible was written. It is an attempt to read into the Bible what clergymen of later times arbitrarily decided should be doctrine.

Ask yourself: Why would the Bible only “imply” its most important teaching—who God is? The Bible is clear on other basic teachings; why not on this, the most important one? Would not the Creator of the universe author a book that was clear on his being a Trinity if that were the case?

The reason the Bible does not clearly teach the Trinity doctrine is simple: It is not a Bible teaching. Had God been a Trinity, he would surely have made it clear so that Jesus and his disciples could have taught it to others. And that vital information would have been included in God’s inspired Word. It would not have been left to imperfect men to struggle with centuries later.

Finally, Trinitarians also point to John 1:1 in some translations, where “the Word” is spoken of as being “with God” and as being “God.” But other Bible translations say that the Word was “a god” or was “divine,” meaning not necessarily God but a powerful one. (See my previous answer on "gods": http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ag3KYWIZ7V9NQrXEYRFDttbsy6IX?qid=20070629090508AAZGTJU&show=7#profile-info-pFM2ypYKaa)

Furthermore, that Bible verse says that “the Word” was “with” God. That would reasonably exclude him from being that same God. And no matter what is concluded about “the Word,” the fact is that only two persons are mentioned at John 1:1, not three. Over and over again, all texts used to try to support the Trinity doctrine utterly fail to do so when examined honestly

Answer 4

Sharon M is incorrect. God deals with specifics, not concepts. There is no scripture to support a rapture any more than there is scripture supporting a trinity. Why would God be specific in every other area of His word, yet non-specific when it comes to 2 such important issues? Neither word, 'trinity" or "rapture," appears anywhere in the Bible. Why not? God is not the author of confusion. If it isn't in the Bible, it isn't true!

Answer 5

This isn't sooo important, but once one believes in Jesus, the Son of the Living God & receives His atonement for ones sins & believes in ones heart He raised from the dead, Then person is born again. And with this spiritual birth, comes a reconciliation with God. A relationship restored. Then God reveals God to us who ask God to. And God reveals the Trinity verses in the Holy Bible. The Holy Spirit leads us in the Holy Bible.

Answer 6

Matthew 28:19 Father, Son and the Holy Ghost.

Answer 7

they'll never give you a suitable answer, because all the verses they quote in favour of a 'trinity' are party to a highly tendentious interpretation and application. It's a man-made idea.

Answer 8

The word "bible" doesn't appear in the KJV either.

Even though the word "trinity" doesn't appear in the bible doesn't mean the concept isn't scriptural. The bible teaches that there is one God, and yet the Father is God, the Son (Jesus) is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. Not separate gods, but one triune God.

Answer 9

its a concept cooked up by people but it relates to the Son (flesh) God (Soul) and Holy Spirit (Spirit of God). However in the bible if you search in revelations there is a passage in the Bible about the 7 spirits of God. Hmm is it possible he can manifest himself in even more way. Quite possible. I suspect he is extra-dimensonal and quite beyone our time and physics. Bible talks about 1 day being a thousand years and a thousand years as one day (time is meaningless). He is omnipresent. (space is meaningless.) So God is quite beyond the finite mind of men but he loves us all the same. Isn't it great. (hint - thats how the prophetic works)

Answer 10

It is because some people perceive God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit as three separate entities.
Others perceive all three as one entity.