Lucifer is NOT and NEVER WAS the "devil". Lucifer is the Roman God of light, warmth and enlightenment. The NAME of Lucifer was NOT included in the Bible until WELL after the Protestant Reformation and the develpment of different VESRIONS of the Bible. As teh Roamn God, Lucifer is credited with endowing humanity with the use of fire. The Cristian "re-writers" of the Bible associated FIRE with HELL and so simply added Lucifer's name to the lift of names that the Devil is known by. However, Lucifer is NOT the only name, term, or Practice of Pagans that was "shanghied" by Christians to obliterate the Pagan's ways of life.
Raji the Green Witch
2007-06-29 03:39:55
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answered by Raji the Green Witch 7
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What are you trying to imply? Jesus is most certainly NOT Lucifer. Lucifer is the angel that had fallen from God's grace and is also called Satan or the devil. If you look in the Bible in the New Testament, it is the devil that tempts Jesus. In Luke 4:2 , it is said that "where for forty days, (Jesus) was tempted by the devil." The Bible is a translated text... people who translated it try to preserve the original meanings of the words. The Bible was created by different records kept by different men, so the wording varies.
2007-06-29 03:30:47
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answered by April W 5
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It is not the "errors" that gets people lost with the NIV, it is the lack of consistency in translation of certain words. Overall the NIV is a very good translation. Those who are ignorant of how the Bible came to us falsely argue over certain verses that do not change any of the theology of the Bible. Read "The King James Only Controversy" by Dr. White, very very good resource for your question.
2016-05-18 21:59:25
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answered by ? 3
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Because some of the translators translated the bible according to doctrine. The doctrine being that the name of satan is Lucifer.
God used morning star in his taunts to the king of Tyre in the old testament. In the new testament Jesus calls himself the morning star.
Lucifer essientially means morning star.
So they reconcilled it by using Lucifer in the old and morning star in the new.
I'm not sure how they made the jump from morning star to naming the devil.
Jews in the old testament didn't believe in the devil as most do today.
Their name for the adversary was Mastema or something like that.
Correct translation is morning star in all cases and never the name of the devil in any case.
2007-06-29 03:30:36
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answered by Emperor Insania Says Bye! 5
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Lucifer means morning star. the NIV is written in higher criticism which takes God's love letter and criticises its past translation, not as the Authorized Bible KJV and the original Languages which take the Word of God as is.
yet even in this with a little work-we can make sense in it=Satan/Lucifer was in charge of the music of heaven as a servant angel, and decided he wanted to be as God-and was cast out of the heavenly realm=Job 1.
He lost his shine as the morning star and his spirit name became Satan/Devil instead, yet Jesus says "Satan can come as a creature of light." He has the ability to disguise himself-counterfiet of Jesus who later came to earth as the bright and morning star. Revelation says in heaven there will be no need of light, as Jesus will be the light there.
Princess, your questions are interesting-the answer is still in the salvation of the soul-till then we are on the outside looking in. Revelation 22 "Do not add to my word or take from it or you will receieve plagues, and never find salvation.
this is how I got salvation-believing the Word of God="I love you, and ask you to repent of your sins (even one lie) quickly. Behold I stand at your heart door and knock if you hear my words and ask me in, I will come in and be your friend." Revelation 1:1=Jesus words spoken from heaven & 3:19&20
so i prayed "Jesus I am sorry for my sins, come into my heart and help me, be my friend, amen."
Now Jesus is my Messiah, Bright and morning star, best friend, and savior, he comforts and keeps me, and His word has become the love letter of my life in Spirit and in truth.
Praying the best for you too, David
2007-06-30 07:22:42
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answered by Anonymous
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Isaiah 14:12
So who is Lucifer in this verse? This passage is a literal reference to the King of Babylon, but its significance encompasses the ultimate defeat and fall of Satan. There have been many different views as to the identity of this king of Babylon. Some propose that this is a reference to Sennacherib, a fierce enemy of God's people. Others see the poetic figure of personification in which the kingdom of Babylon as a whole is referred to in personal terms.
The Hebrew word translated in the NKJV as " Lucifer" literally means "shining one" ( "Day Star" or the planet Venus ). Verse 12 could be translated " How you are fallen from heaven, O shining one, son of the morning." Because the king of Babylon desired to se himself up as God, his fall would be as from heaven.
The parallels between this passage and such NT passages as Luke 10:18 and Revelation 20:2 indicate that this passage may have broader application. The prophecy was given for those who lived in Isaiah's day, and it had immediate significance for them. God was promising them that their enemy, the king of Babylon and the evil empire itself, would ultimately be torndown. Yet, the prophecy may have significance for s as a picture of the ultimate demise of the evil ruler of this world whom God will ulitmately destroy.
Fallen from heaven is a figure of speech meaning cast down from exalted. This is apt summary of the failed goal of the king of Babylon ( v 4 ) who wanted to grasp universal and eternal damnation.
Revelation 22:16
The root and the offspring of David: Jesus is both greater than David ad the righful heir to the throne of David.
Bright andMorning Star means that for the Christian, Jesus is the comforting light in the dark world until the dawn of His return. ( Jesus is the 'Word became flesh' and the holy Spirit helps us to dwell in His Word, the Bible. Like v 17 says,This invitation by the Spirit remains open to anyone who will come by faith to Christ to accept the Lord's gracious offer of eternal life )
2 Peter 1:19
We have the prophetic word confirmed may be rephrased as " We have the prophetic word as a surer confirmation. " As strong as an eyewitness account ( vv 16-19 )may be, there is even stronger confirmation that Jesus is who He said He was. The written scriptures are even more trustworthy than the personal experience of the apostle Peter. The truths in the Bible will point to the source of all truth, Christ, until He returns in glory.
Revelation 2:28
The morning star is Christ Himself in 22:16. For the overcoming believer, Christ's presence is the ligh in the dark and difficult times before the dawn of the Son's coming.
2007-06-29 09:20:46
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answered by Nina, BaC 7
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Lucifer was Satan's name before he fell. He was called the morning star before he fell also. But once he fell, he was no longer the morning star, so Christ used it to describe himself a few times.
Although, I don't believe the NIV is the best translation to use. That's my opinion, so don't listen to me if you use it and think it's the best.
2007-06-29 04:13:59
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answered by odd duck 6
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Note: Lucifer means morning star.
2007-06-29 03:27:58
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answered by capitalctu 5
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You are preaching to the choir, sister! Not a single NIV mention of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, either. Not one. It is a perversion of the truth and warping the minds of children.
2007-06-29 03:30:31
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answered by melkoren 2
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The answer is to compare original languages of Isaiah and Revelation.
2007-06-29 03:30:24
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answered by Anonymous
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