AB1634 amended - from bad to worse?

Question

AB1634 has been amended for consideration by the Senate. The amendments change the bill significantly (and not for the better).

The intact permit would now be available for ONE male and ONE female animal in a household and they would be allowed to produce ONE litter (lifetime).
They would have to be spayed or neutered after this litter. Purebreds and mixed breeds are treated the same under this legislations. Titling age has been changed to 3 years. Local animal control agencies are still able to eliminate the "show dog" provisions in local ordinance (i.e., only service/working dogs, etc. would be eligible for the intact permits).

http://www.leginfo. ca.gov/pub/ 07-08/bill/ asm/ab_1601-1650/ab_1634_ bill_20070627_amended_ sen_v93.html

Answer 1

This bill is a crowbar in the door towards elimination of ALL pets! The profit breeders are going to pay whatever the state asks for and just up puppy prices and production. Why? Because the caring, knowledgeable, RESPONSIBLE breeders who show, and test, and properly care for their dogs are going to see this as the final straw. They already lose money on their dogs, but do it for the love of their breed. The Nanny-ment butting into thier privacy and dictating how to run their breeding programs will cause them to spay/neuter all the great, well bred, healthy bloodlined animals (cats as well as dogs), which will leave CA residents with no choices for quality pets. People who can't afford to or don't want to alter their pets will dump them into shelters, or just ignore the law.

And worse yet, any municipality can say, "Naah. We're not letting ANY pets be intact". This bill gives them the wherewithal to do just that. CA, STAND UP AGAINST THIS TRAVESTY NOW! Please don't think it will go away. If you do, you'll be rudely shocked when someone knocks on your door and takes YOUR pet!

Answer 2

I am Canadian so forgive my ignorance on American laws but what on earth? Service and working dogs should never be intact. I train service and protection working dogs and have never seen a situation where these dogs should be intact. In fact all governing bodies (ADI, Delta, Guide dog) require their dogs to be fixed before their working career begins.

A fixed working dog can focus on the work; while an intact dog is distracted and more likely to fight, breed and have issues that someone can't handle. You can't work a intact female before/ during/ immediately after a heat cycle. You can't work an intact male in the presence of an intact female and many intact males.

I would argue that only the top 10 percent of the pure breeds should be allowed to breed and those should be demonstrated to be free of disease and illness, temperament tested, CGC and have won the majority of shows and trials (working breed) for it's breed.

There should be a few exemptions for mixed breeding for the purpose of creating and maintaining a new breed. Ideally very few people would be able to gain an exemption.

Anyone wishing to breed should be required to pass exams, attend classes, attain certification and be held legally responsible for their pups and the homes they go to. Limits on breeding before certain ages and after certain ages should be in place for the safety and well being of the dog. A proper breeder should have no more dogs then they can care for fully.

Apart from these things I would say yes every dog should be fixed. I don't know about US but in Canada there is spay and nueter clinics for low income people. I am poor as hell but I still have fixed each of my dogs. It might take some planning but I am always able to save 50 dollars over 6 months to fix my new friend.

I was unable to follow your link or access a copy of this law. So I am relying on what you have said.

Answer 3

They can't even enforce the laws on the books now. Unfortunately if it passes, the breeders (reputable ones) will move out of state.

You won't have a dog show in the state. Louisville KY passed this and no one shows there anymore. Owners are boycotting shows.

Answer 4

I thought it was 1 litter and then at the age of 6 months they have to get spayed and neutered. I read it on Pet connection.com

Answer 5

Maybe after they forcefully alter your dog they can put your microchip in at the same time. That way the government intrusion would be more convenient for you. CA residents need to fight this.

Answer 6

That bill really just disgusts me. I just do not understand how so many people can be for something that is so unreasonable and will only punish responsible dog owners & breeders. People really need to wake up and see this for what it is, an end to all pet ownership.

Answer 7

That's.. weird. Really. Must be stressful being an american dog owner.

Answer 8

Still too lax...it should be tougher for breeders...there's too many animals in shelter and some breeders could care less how the animals are treated...they treat the animals as a commodity rather than a family member.

Answer 9

Californians may be forced to neuter pets

http://abcnews.go.com/WaterCooler/wireStory?id=3259206

Answer 10

And people say this is a free country! The government is sticking it's nose in where it don't belong.