All our religious texts pre-date Jesus. The Rabbinical commentary on those texts from after Jesus' time do not discuss him. Why should they, he is irrelevant to us!
The statements people try to use from the Talmud claiming they are disparaging of Jesus tend to fall into various categories:
1) Outright fabrications
2) Completely mistaken -like taking the incident of somone with a similar name (Yeshua was a common name) and trying to claim it is referrinfg to jesus, even though from the rabbis involved it is two hundred years BEFORE Jesus was born
3) Mistranslations
4) Out of context quotes
2007-06-28 23:56:02
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answer #1
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answered by allonyoav 7
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I think BMCR answered very well.
I just want to add to Melanie's answer. 1)The messiah is to rebuild the temple. Shortly after Jesus comming, it was destroyed and has remained destroyed for close to 2000 years now. 2)The Messiah is to ingather the exiles. Since Jesus coming, the remaining two tribes that were in Israel were exiled, the 10 tribes have not been rturned, and the Jews have spen the last almost 2000 years wandering the globe being persecuted, exiled, and butchered. 3)The Messiah is to bring world peace.Since Jesus' coming, there has been much war, bloodshed, death, in the name of Jesus. 4)The Messiah is to bring the universal knowledge of G-d. Since Jesus' coming, not only have the followers of Jesus himself splintered into hundreds of religions, but many many new religions and ideologies have spawned up in the world. 5)The Messiah is to bring about the ultimate resurrection of the dead. Instead of Jesus' coming accomplishing this, many have died as a result of his coming (been murdered over the matter).
Oh, a pre-Jesus possible reference in Jewish religious texts to Jesus may be Zechariah 13- wherein the scripture tells us that false prophet with the wounds between his hands admits that he received these wounds from his loved ones because he was giving false prophecies.
2007-07-01 22:14:52
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answered by supcch063 2
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Maimonides did, actually. He says that Jesus is even alluded to in the Torah. But it's not exactly complimentary:
"[Sons of the lawless men of your people will exalt themselves to establish a vision, but they will stumble (Daniel 11:14)]. Is there any greater stumbling block than this? All the prophets foretold that the Messiah would redeem the Jews, help them, gather in the exiles, and support the observance of the commandments. But he caused Jewry to be put to the sword, he tampered with the Torah and its laws, and he misled most of the world to serve something other than God."
That pretty much summarizes the Jewish view on Christianity's founder.
2007-06-29 14:10:05
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answer #3
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answered by Melanie Mue 4
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And if they do, what relevance is it?
And what exactly do you mean by "post Christ religious texts"? Would that include Maimonidies from the 12th century who wrote that he was not the messiah?
There are those who beleive that the Talmud speaks of Jesus but that is very much in contention.
See http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/jesusi.html for a well written treatment of that subject.
2007-06-28 20:12:12
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answered by BMCR 7
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Yes, much the same as "New" Testament texts mention the final prophet, Mohammad!
For Jews, the belief that God would become human is the ultimate heresy.
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2007-06-29 09:17:38
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answered by Hatikvah 7
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OK, first--all of the "translations" in **my** Bible (what others refer to as the "Old Testament") do **not** refer to Jesus as the messiah--they are passages taken out of context and mistranslated. See the links below.
Second--yes, there are one or two references in the Talmud about someone who may or may not be Jesus, but that's all as far as I know.
2007-06-28 13:14:46
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answered by Mark S, JPAA 7
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If it does name Jesus it is not believed that He is the Son of God. They stick to the Old Testament.
2007-06-28 11:35:33
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answered by Anonymous
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The Messianic Prophecies. And you can search this question on the web Search. Because they have lists of Messianic Prophecies fulfilled in Yeshua Messiah. My favorite may be Isaiah 53.
Also, Yeshua means "He will Save" And this Name or Yeshu, or Yehoshua is in many of the Old Testament books pointing to Israels Savior. In our books it would be translated as he will save, savior, saved, etc. in the Old Testament.
Also, one of the oldest Rabbis who died just a little more than a year ago, wrote that the Messiahs name would be 'Yehoshua'. To be opened 1 year after his death. Too many Israelis don't want to accept this as what he wrote though. But Savior is who the Messiah will be, & Yehoshua means The Lord Savior.
2007-06-28 11:38:38
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answered by LottaLou 7
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Yes, but mostly in the form "Aaaah! The followers of Jesus are attacking us again!"
2007-06-28 11:35:39
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answered by Azure Z 6
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they have no post-Christ religious texts.
why would they? all they need is in the Torah.
2007-06-28 11:34:33
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answered by Yahoo admins are virgins 5
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