MUSLIMS...WHY DO YOU CHOSE THlS?

Question

Muslims do you use logic in your faith?

Why do you pick allah over yahweh? Yahweh saved the jews in the exodus and split the red sea, allah has no records of any achievements except pretending itself to be yahweh. In which case, why don't you worship yahweh?

Why do you believe muhammad more than Jesus? Jesus had a miraculous birth and had an impeccably righteous life while muhammad murdered people and robbed caravans?

Why do you believe in the qur'an is flawless when it does not even concur with simple logic and says the sun sets in a muddy spring?

Why do you say islam is peaceful when your islamic brothers are killing people everywhere?

Why do you pray towards the ka'aba which houses a black stone but reject being labelled an idol-worshipper?

I know you have TONs of excuses. But why do you need excuses to believe in a religion? Isn't it very tiring?

Islam seems to require excuses on almost every area of its faith. Why even believe it in the first place then?

FACTS? These are facts. I'm asking you for logic in using facts. Don't go backwards.

Answer 1

Don't waste your time. You know these people will never listen.

Answer 2

You don't really want a discussion, do you? All you are looking for is mischief based on some half baked knowledge about Islam that you seem to have picked up somewhere. Grow up! Your mania against one set of people is almost clinical. Ever thought about seeing a shrink?

However, I cannot help telling you that Muslims do not "believe one prophet more than other". They believe and believe in ALL prophets. Jesus did have a miraculous birth but this does not make him son of God. And Mohammad did not go about "murdering" people and robbing caravans. At least get your history lessons again.

As for Allah and Yahweh, there is just one God whatever you prefer to call him in your language.

Your "simple logic" is not logic at all. You are one sick person who just is stuck in sementics. When I read your "questions" (if you can call these ramblings of a deranged mind questions) then I think of this quotation very often, "Two people look out of the same window. One sees the mud and the other sees the stars". May you manage to see the stars some day.

Muslims do not pray towards Ka'aba because it "houses a black stone". They pray towards it because it is a symbol of solidarity and unity for the Muslim world as ordered by God.

Yes, Islam is peaceful. Don't you sometimes have to "kill" murderers, robbers and negative elements of society ("terrorists" if you please) to establish peace in your country?

Islam, by the way, is the most logical religion. If you are so much put off by Islam, why don't you first try to see what it actually is before penning down your indoherent and senseless thoughts?

And yes, I can never believe in a religion which is so illogical as to believe that since one prophet has been "cruicified" all the misdeeds of generations to come have been compensated for. That perhaps explains your (i.e. Christians) unrestrained behaviour towards life as you think you are blessed no matter what you do. Some logic, I must say!! I do not generally like pointing fingers at others' faith but people like you prompt such actions. So my apologies to the rest of the Christians.

Answer 3

Boy, I'm not the person to be defending Islam, as my family fled it in the 1950s, but this post is just one error in understanding after another:
1) The name you use for God is not meant to be spoken or used. It is sacred to the Jewish people and holy. The Aramaic word for God is "Allah". Aramaic is the common spoken language for the region, and is probably what Jesus (Yeshua) spoke. Allah is a better word for God than "God", traditionally speaking. Christians have drifted to a new word, not Islam.

Why do you believe Jesus more than Moses? Moses had a miraculous birth (look into the stories associated with him) and founded all three (in a way). Shouldn't he dominate? That argument really doesn't stand up. In addition, Islam sees Jesus as NOT divine (which is more in keeping with the meanings of Messiah, son of God, etc., which at the time of Jesus were NOT considered terms of a divine person, but had other meanings, those meanings changing with the introduction of the Mithra-based Mystery Faiths of Paul (Saul) into Jesus' teachings. A little knowledge of Aramaic idioms goes a long way to understanding the origins of the Bible vs. trying to read it as if such idioms don't exist and didn't exist then, kind of like some one foolishly reading "It rained cats and dogs" and then rushing to the sky and imagining the miracle.

"Sun sets in a muddy spring". Idiom. Why is that so hard to understand?

Islam is peaceful, unless threatened by their enemies. However, their idea of a threat is a bit wider than ours. Our free speech is a constant threat when it reaches into their carefully cultured and guided society, like weed seeds thrown into a hot house garden.

It is not wanted or appreciated, we won't stop, they must stop us. Plus, it is said that Islam will dominate the globe. You are the enemy if you try to stop them. From their perspective, they ARE peaceful, as long as you either: accept Allah, accept a lower-class status with extra taxes and no visible religion, or die.
The Ka'aba...you've got me there.

I'm not religious. I support the war. I am a democrat, but first and foremost I am a patriot, believing in free speech, free expression, freedom of religion, and equality (old style democrat).

Islam is the most dangerous challenge of our time, but these arguments need some serious work.

Answer 4

Put it this way ..... Christians have tons of excuses as well.

Pot making a phone call to kettle to say the kettle is black?

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Facts?

ok .....

Why do you believe in Jesus? It is not documented anywhere in authorative documentation other then a hearsay book called the bible complied by an ancient Rome emperor whose main idea is to fight the pagan's competitor.

Why the council vote in a few scriptures to be put into the bible and discard the bulk?

Why do you believe in the bible is flawless when it does not even concur with simple logic and says the plants are there first before the sun?

Why do you say Christian is peaceful when your christian president send troops to flatten a whole country because he thinks god tell him to do so?

Why do you wear a cross and pray to a cross but reject being labelled an idol-worshipper?

Answer 5

According to your own todays version of Bible, Jesus cried from cross,

" ELei, ELei, Lama Zaphthani" Matthew 27v46
" ELi, ELi, Lama Zaphthani" Mark 15v34

Translation: "My God, my God, Why have you forsaken me?"

Do you corelate word " Elei or Eli " with " yahweh "
or Allah / Elah ?

If still you think it is near to " Yahweh ", then I am sorry No one can help you.

I don't think I should answer your other questions, because your vision is so narow you can absorb more information and knowledge.

For the time being take it enogh and just correct your views about God Almighty first and then go for further detale.

May Allah / Elei / Eli / Elah / give you wisdom to find truth and accept it, Amen.

Read some history as well because my next answer would be about refurbishing your memory about historical truth.

Up Dated for my Muslim Brothers and Sisters:
I must SALUTE you all for your participation in this forum and I request you all kindly participate on other forums as well, Here in west people are so misguided by stereo type media, they need up-dation of true knowledge at all level.
May Allah bless us all, Amen.

S eek, S hare, and S pread Knowledge.

Answer 6

Even Christianity seems to require excuses on almost every area of its faith. Why even believe it in the first place then?

If you believe in Jesus, why don't you talk like him? If the Gospels say that Jesus keep bashing other religions with the same words you have, we'll have more points (or in your word, excuses) to say how right we are.

Be a true follower of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him).

Answer 7

wow, u're full of it aren't u?

u talk like u know islam best. stop being ignorant, man... u're the one making unlogical excuses on islam. why this and why that? so many questions asked in the wrong way.... wow... here, let me try it too... questions by "gingerfix tea", your style......

why pray to a dude on a cross? didnt u know jesus was one of our prophets too? and after jesus, we were all one and the same until prophet muhammad came along? why believe moses, jesus and then completely disregard muhammad who came with the same messages as the other prophets? why stop at jesus? why aren'y u a jew? wasn't jesus a jew? shouldnt u be what jesus was, follow his way, since u're pro-jesus? don't u realise that christianity was created by man? why would god say "worship my son and be a christian since his name is christ". why not worship god since he is the creator, the supreme being? i mean, jesus was a man u know - didn't u watch 'Passion of Christ' and see how he suffered as a MAN? didnt u hear what jesus say? he didn't say "believe in me" - he said believe in 'my father' - that is god. so why are u praying to the son of god? a man, just like me and you, gave the name 'christianity' - try finding out where the word 'islam' came from. why believe in the bible that has been modified by many men? the qu'ran has not been modified since prophet muhammad's time. try and get me two bibles that are EXACTLY the same from (we don't have to go so far back in time) 50 years ago and today. the qu'ran has been the same, UNEDITED, UNMODIFIED since it first came. woooooweeeee... i'm on a roll here.... so are u gonna start making excuses on the above questions???

it's all about twisting the words. just like the media. u're so silly it's unbelievable. stop asking these questions about other religion thinking u're all that - KNOW YOUR OWN RELIGION FIRST.

stop trying to offend others with your ridiculous opinions and questions. just get a life, dude. find love and peace and you'll get by without trying to create a stir with your questions every now and then to make yourself feel good. are all christians a joke like u??? ouuuuuccccchhhh.... now THAT'S offensive isnt it? doesn't feel good does it? i'm probably gonna get a million thumbs down for this when all i'm doing is just the same damn thing u're doing - just throwing it back at u. it's not funny. i don't like it. i just think i should finally speak up after observing u for quite abit.

btw, i have many MANY Christian friends - and none of them feel the need to attack muslims. why do u hate so much? didn't jesus teach u to love one another? mannnnnn... u're so contradicting, it's SAD.

Answer 8

first of all let me tell u something.

"little knowledge is dangerous not only for u but for others as well"

i have seen that u r saying Yahweh is better than ALLAH well let me tell u something jews and muslims and christians worship the same GOD they just use different names my man so the actually ur this point has no logic.

we believe prophet MUHAMMAD (PBUH) not bcuz of miracles but bcuz even JESUS said
that there will b a prophet after him and we must follow him as he will lead us to right way.
so actually we r not saying who is better or not and if u do kno even ALLAH (accoring to u he is yahweh) that

"ALLAH and his angels send blessings to his prophet muhammad o!righteous ppl u too send blessings for ur prophet MUHAMMAD(PBUH)"

so from this u can see that GOD has given him the most value by even telling his angels and ppl to send blessings to him while that never happend for the previous prophet

as u said sun sets in a muddy spring according to QURAN right.
well then why dont u tell ur scientists to stop researching on HOLY QURAN bcuz they r now giving their logics according to HOLY QURAN so plz stop telling us , tell ur those stupid scientist who u believe r saying the right science.

oh oh and u r saying muslims r klling everyone huh
lets see

b4 even usa was there in america , red indians used to live there, who killed all those ppl and took their land huh, australia was also such a place where ppl like the red indians used to live but ur white ppl went to australia and killed them all and said this is good for humanity and blah blah.
look into ur history pal and u will see u ppl killed more much more than muslims did in their entire history.

and besides bad ppl r everywhere there is also a third party that shows ppl they r muslims and they r murdering ppl but actually they r the ones who want ppl to hate muslims.

so first stop watching ur tv and stop believeing ur cnn and bbc and come out side and see things with ur eyes (if u do have them) and see what is going on who is the killer and who is the one being killed



and u kno what bout u ppl there is a gr8 saying

"when a man goes into jungle and kills a lion u ppl call it hunting but when a lion comes into the city of human beings and kills one for his living , u call it animality and start crying lion is a bad animal "

so the thing is stop asking us and start finding answers urself

and wait

u will have to face the death too soon u will see who is right and who is wrong

everything after ur death will b revealed and u kno what there will b no turning back so if u r on the wrong side then imagine what can happen

u cant even burn ur finger on a candle light how will u face the flames of hell


"PEACE ! may u find a path leading u out of the circle of idiotism"

Answer 9

I think most of the fear about Muslims is being generated by the zealots and fanatics who have taken over the ‘silent majority of moderates’.
The Wahhabis are the sect outa Saudi – they are the scary ones who blow up 1000 year old Buddha statues in Afghanistan and fly planes into tall buildings.

On the other hand Islam is a death cult that loves blood and jihad and is convinced it should and will rule the world with Shari’a.

Islam is a religion that thrives on the arrogant assumption that it is the most logical, the most scientific and the most perfect religion. While the fact is that it is the stupidest doctrine — the most backward and absurd belief.

Muslims expect us and our society to be tolerant towards them but, in their society, tolerance of any other religion or culture is highly unusual.

Answer 10

All of Islam is Logic. You can ask anything in Islam and get your answer.Its not like christianity that you are not allowed to ask some questions from god or jesus.The Only RELIGION that is based on logic is ISLAM.The christianity and jews were true religions but it changed fromits original shape.

Answer 11

Oh my God!!! Why to worship someone rather God??
Why to convince you by this while you are already consider it as "excuses"??
I hate the way of bashing others beliefs the way you did... it is rude and nonsense...
I am totally satisfied with my faith and it is enough to me.... I don't care whether you agree ot not... it doesn't make a difference to me at all...
Wouldn't answer such question...

Peace!