So I'm trying to clean an Old Winchester .30-30 and...?

Question

...everytime I put the copper brush down the barrel it's like I never cleaned it before. It's my fathers gun, and he has probably never cleaned it, but everytime I use the copper brush it comes out really dirty for 2 patches then cleans up again. Then I use copper brush again and again it is really dirty for about 2 patches then clears up again. Without using the copper brush the patches come out perfectly clean, but when I use the brush it is really dirty. So my question is, is that the way it is sopposed to be? I really never used copper brushes before. I didnt know if I was just scraping the inside of the barrel up with the copper brush and that is what caused all the dirtyness? It is a black dirtyness. I been going at this thing for probably 2 hours now. It's clean as a whistle when I dont use that copper brush but when I do it is so dirty. I feel really redundant right now. Just wondering if I was sopposed to keep going till the patches after the copper brush are clean?

Answer 1

Get a new brush!

Try the same technique with a brand new bore brush and Hoppe's no 9 solvent.

I bet the brush you are using is dirtier than the barrel.

Then patch it until it is clean.

Remember to always clean fron the chamber to the muzzle.

Do not clean both ways or from the muzzle end first!

Answer 2

If you are not using any solvent, like Hoppe's #9 or something similar, it will never get clean. Remove the bolt, and clean from the breach end to the muzzle. That will keep all that crud out of the action. Pour a little cleaning solvent down the barrel and let it run out on an old towel while you run the bore brush. When it appears to be coming out clean, run a patch or 2. Look thru the barrel while holding it up to a light, and when it appears shiny, it is clean.
If it is not shiny, keep cleaning until it is.

Answer 3

What you are probably getting out is copper/lead fouling. It will appear clean but it really is not. When copper jacketed or lead bullets are fired they leave a film of "fouling" inside the barrel. Over time even when cleaned it builds up in the barrel. The only way to remove it is to use a copper/Lead solvent such as Hoppes benchrest (there are other products) or a electrolisis cleaning method. (If you dont want to shell out a hundred or more bucks see a good gunsmith). Hope this helps.

Answer 4

First, which cleaning solvent are you using. Some solvents dissolve copper. Usually it will show up as a bluish-green color, but if your brush is really fouled it will be black. Try cleaning your brush with something like Birchwood-Casey bore cleaner and see if that helps. When your dry patch comes out clean, just give the bore a light coat of oil and you are done.

Answer 5

Put some solvent through it and let it sit for a while. The copper brush won't hurt the barrel. The barrel is made of hardened steel and is, logically, harder than the copper bristles.

Answer 6

First thing is, clean your brush, then go to your local wal-mart or any sporting goods store and look for a spray can of cleaning solvent called gun scrubber, this solvent is very good. spray it down the barrel and into the reciever and every other moving part of your lever action 30/30. this stuff will disolve any dryed gun powder. then dip your cleaning patch in regular solvent and swabb thouroughly. when patches start comming out clear you can dip another patch in light 3 1n 1 0il or any gun oil and repeat process. this should take care of your problem. but please do not spray with wd-40. this stuff evaporates, and leaves you unprotected. user light oil and leave a thin coat inside.

Answer 7

Maybe you should clean the copper brush.

Answer 8

dont use that copper brush but one maybe 2 times and swab it clean and spray wd40 in there.

Answer 9

use a nylon brush is is better for the gun anyhow.