why do people say that god has always existed?

Question

question everything dealing with evolution as if it were some offbeat theory concocted by hippie scientists in oregon; question others' reasoning for not believing in a god; but never stop to think about the fact that stating ''there is an eternal god'' is a very powerful statement indeed, with much more implication and much less evidence than anything ever proposed by science. the fact of stating there is an ''eternal god'' means that your theory is infinitely less likely(impossible) to yeild relative evidence than scientists could dream of trying to find to support evolution. big bang theorists are always being questioned about everything coming from ''nothing'', but have you even stopped to think about where god came from? because as you lot always love to quote the 2nd law of thermo., ''something cannot come from nothing''.

fyi... i'm well aware its not the second law of thermodynamics. i merely put that because i can't tell you how many times i've seen people mis-define it trying to prove some point.

Answer 1

This has more to do with the concept of time and more to do with the laws of relativity than those of thermo dymanitics..Because time does not flow in a straight line it flows in circles or cycles. The ancients like the Myans and others understood this. It was Pope Gregory that changed the calander to the Georgian concept of time. The bible says to everything there is a season and a time. A time to plant a time to reap , a time of peace a time of war, a time to be born a time to die, ect..

The bible also says that which was, is now, and that which will be, is now, In other words if today (the present) is tomorrows past and yesterdays future , we are living in the past ,present and future all at once.

Since our understanding of the nature of time is wrong therefore trying to understand something that is outside of it is almost impossible. The bible says God is the same -that he is unchanging, The passage if Time is measured by a change in something.

Answer 2

The fact that God has always existed is what makes him God. God is the first cause of all things. the most basic of the laws of physics tell us that the Big Bang is a fraud. Do you really believe that some microscopic dot caontained all the mass in the universe and blew it self up without an outside force acting upon it? That defies scientific facts.

I spent 13 years in public schools learning and believing evolution. I never once questioned it because I was taught that there were no opposing views. Then I spent a few months studying the creationist view and found that most of what evolution stands on is lies and outdated science.

http://darwinismrefuted.com
http://www.answersingenesis.org/
http://www.nwcreation.net/videos/index.html
http://evolution-facts.org/EncyclopediaTOC.htm

Answer 3

This question has been answered by both the non-believer and the believer so many times. I cannot see how it was ever possible for the intricacies of man, mind and the creation too just evolve because the right things came together at the right time from a mindless, non-intelligent beginning. Others feel they understand it far better if it began this way. No I don't believe it was a "benign father or a "santa claus figure" that started it all but an energy and intelligence that we have only begun to understand.

Answer 4

Time itself started with the Big Bang. It's not so much that God is eternal, as that he IS. He is that which exists. He doesn't depend on time. It's not that he's very very old, it's that he simply is. Time is his invention. We can't imagine anything that exists outside of time because it's so much a part of us.

The idea that time began with the Big Bang is actually from a science book, not the Bible.

The self-existence of God is a logical necessity. Aristotle called it the "uncaused cause". Some cause must have caused all things that exist to come into existence; that thing cannot be natural because all natural things came into existence as a result of that cause, and a thing cannot cause itself. Since that cause is not natural, it must by definition be supernatural.

Answer 5

God creates out of nothing.

God is a balanced Being. He is a God of justice and love. He is not an influence or unseen force or power like electricity. God is also a Spirit. (Luke 24,39; John 4,24) The Lord our God is one God. (Deuteronomy 6,4) He is eternal. To be a true God He must have neither a beginning nor an ending. (1 Timothy1, 17; Isaiah 57,15) He is omnipotent. (Genesis 1,1; 1,3) He is omnipresent. (1 Kings 8,27; Psalm 139,7-9) He is omniscient. (1 Chronicles 28,9; Psalm 94,11) He is holy, righteous, merciful, loving, faithful, compassionate, unsearchable, good, immutable, true, incorruptible, and a consuming fire.
Love Him. Worship Him. Serve Him. Obey Him. Fear Him.

Peace and blessings.

Answer 6

The concept of God as eternal is a mind boggling one. However, God's name is I AM meaning He exists in all time as if it is the present as we humans see it. That means He does not live in a linear time-line as we do. God, being so much more than man, can not be confined by the knowledge of man in science although He is often seen within the workings of science.

Answer 7

Are you new here? And not to split hairs, but I think you mean law of conservation of mass and also of energy, not thermodynamics.
Oh and I do not question good science, but many scientists have been pretending to know more than they do. There is nothing wrong with calling someone's bluff.

Answer 8

first law of Jason

Human beings are yet too inferior to grasp the true concept of infinity and eternal, for their world is fleeting and perishes swiftly. We, as humans are but less than a spec of dust in the vastness of the universe, and to believe we have figured out even one of its mysteries is but an act of vanity.

Answer 9

Faith is evidence unseen. We walk by faith,and not by sight. If you choose not to walk by faith, and to depend on men to give you answers you seek about the universe, then, what is it to me? Or, what do you try to gain by saying these things? Are you hoping to change the way we believe? We stand firm in our faith. Our Lord tells us to. We are not of this world. "Wisdom of this world is foolishness to God." We look at things from a heavenly perspective, not from a worldly one. If God is with us, who can be against us?

Answer 10

The Universe cannot have always just existed. That is irrational. Logic beckons that there must be a first cause, by which we call God.