How do Jehovah's Witnesses prove thet Christ took a throne in1914?

Question

And what are you going to do when the watchtower sociaty says that they never said that, ?......Kinda like the 1975 thing that they said but then said that they didn't say?

Answer 1

Prior to 1914 the Watchtower said Armageddon and the end would come in 1914. After 1914 the Watchtower said that 1914 was in fact the start of Jesus invisible prescence. (quite a handy concept)

There is no proof that Jesus took the throne in 1914, and it is believed due to nothing more than poor research and gulliblity. The Watchtower attempts to use 2 lines of reasoning for 1914 being special.

SIGNS - Most of the signs Jesus gave of the Last Days have if anything decreased since 1914. see http://jwfacts.com/index_files/lastdays.htm

SEVEN TIMES - The prophecy of the 7 Times is fabricated at many levels. see http://jwfacts.com/index_files/1914.htm

Answer 2

My favorite subject in school was World History. I went gogo-gaga over that subject. Even my history teacher taught the early part of the year 1914, the whole world was experiecing peace. However, the assassination of the heir to the Austrian throne by a Serb on June 28, 1914 prompterd Austria-Hungary to declared war against Serbia... and rest as we know it is world history.

How is this in connection with Christ taking the throne in 1914? While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, Jesus was talking to his disciples regarding God's Kingdom being established in Heaven having him (Jesus) as King as God's representative over mankind. His disciples asked Jesus what will be the sign when these things are destined to occur?

Please read Jesus' reply in Matthew chapter 24: 3-14.

Regarding 1975- never did the Watchtower confirmed that this was "IT." Many took it upon themselves that this was the "year" and became over righteous in their own understanding of the Bible. Although the Society then encouraged everyone to be prepared, they also made sure that "everyone continue the work of the Lord" even if it did not occur.

I am aware of what you said-- you were around in 1975. So were my parents. They were yearing for it, yes... but no, they did not allow themselves to be discouraged nor' sold their belongings during that year because they heard what the Soceity warned about the year 1975. Bro. Franz said, "it could be...but we are NOT saying.." (meaning they are not confirming it).

Answer 3

While Jehovah's Witnesses would argue that such a delay is unlikely, even if Armageddon were not to occur for 100 or 200 more years it would still seem reasonable to recognize that Christ took his throne in 1914.

In hindsight, most of humankind can see the historic upheaval that began with World War I. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that mankind in general has seen a wide range of specific signs since 1914, and that anyone can perceive these as significant without even opening a bible.

Yet the bible DOES comment upon it! Jesus foretold this specific collection of signs as evidence that his "presence" or so-called 'second coming' had arrived. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that "presence" to be Jesus' presence as the King of God's Kingdom.

(Matthew 24:3) disciples approached [Jesus] privately, saying: "Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence

(Luke 21:7,24) Teacher, when will these things actually be, and what will be the sign when these things are destined to occur?


Amazingly, since the 1870's, Jehovah's Witnesses had recognized 1914 as a significant year according to the chronology indicated in bible prophecy. Decades before 1914, Witnesses noted that Jesus' discussion of his second "coming", or second "presence" specifically mentions "the appointed times of the nations", which Jehovah's Witnesses believe to be a centuries-long period of relative godlessness when God's rulership through the Davidic kingship was interrupted (the line of hereditary kings beginning with King David of Israel). Jehovah's Witnesses recognize that the Davidic kingship ended in 607 BCE when Jerusalem fell to Babylon, and would begin again during the fulfillment of the composite "sign" of Matthew 24 and Luke 21.

(Luke 21:24) Jerusalem [or 'Davidic kingship'] will be trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled.


How long would "the appointed times of the nations" last? Daniel chapter 4 contains a prophecy in which God's rulership, through the Davidic kings is represented by a "tree". That tree is kept down for "seven times", which seems to be seven periods of 360 "days" (See Rev 12:6,14). So Daniel 4:15 seems to be referring to 2520 "days" when God's governmental rulership would not be seen.

(Daniel 4:11-17) The tree grew up and became strong, and its very height finally reached the heavens, and it was visible to the extremity of the whole earth. ...14 He ["a holy one"] was calling out loudly, and this is what he was saying: "CHOP the tree down... 15 However, LEAVE its rootstock itself in the earth... let seven times pass over it. 17 ...that people living may know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of mankind and that to the one whom he wants to, he gives it and he sets up over it even the lowliest one of mankind.


But in history, 2520 days is not a significant amount of time. Jehovah's Witnesses look to Scriptures such as Num 14:34 and Ez 4:6 and re-examine the history using 2520 YEARS instead. From 607 BCE to 1914 CE is 2520 years; so many significant things happened that year, and World War I was only one part!.

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/dg/index.htm?article=article_09.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/lmn/index.htm?article=article_10.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/pr/index.htm?article=article_07.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/jt/index.htm?article=article_02.htm

Answer 4

Sadly they "prove" it using faulty circular logic.

-They start with the assumption that the Bible is true.
-Then they twist the scripture to indicate that the Watchtower is in charge of interpreting God's word--that they are the only organization that has "the truth".
-Therefore they can conclude that if the Watchtower says it, it must be true.

And when they change their mind on it, like they did in regards to vaccinations, they can fall back on the good ol' standby: The devil made me do it.

(I really wish they would swallow their evil pride and renig on the blood issue. By anyone's interpretation, the God of the Bible no longer requires human sacrifice.)

Answer 5

They don't even try to prove it.

When they change their mind, I'm going to do the same thing I do when ever some false cult changes their mind.

Just ignore them like I do right now.

Pastor Art

Answer 6

They can't. how can they prove that when people can't even prove God? That is why religion is based on FAITH, you don't need facts you just believe because your heart tells you so.

Answer 7

yea the pope can do no wrong so to speak