Let me try to say this in terms you can understand?

Question

This bill or no bill. This bill or no bill. This bill or no bill. How can you be opposed to a bill that as Ted Kennedy said "Offers the best border protection EVER" I know that many do not trust the government that they will enforce the law, but since 9/11 there have been 92 amendments, 59 committe hearings and 3 bills and it seems that we know what everyone here is against but they never say what they are for. If you want border enforcement THEN SUPPORT THIS BILL. Lets say hypothetically it was border enforcement only and no path to legalization, how would you know that they would do it then? You wouldnt. And if they dont do anything about the illegal immigrant there will be 10 million more shortly. Although this bill does not eliminate illegal immigration, it reduces it greatly.
And you precious tax money that you are all so upset about? All the fines and fees that the immigrants will pay will bring in 55 billion dollars and cost america 30 billion.

As for the 2.7 trillon for retirement and welfare for immigrants, there will be even more money made from immigrants taxes etc. and this was said by that same department.

And finally, it is not amnesty, so law is being enforced(5,000) fine.

Answer 1

anyone who tells you that this is amnesty needs to pick up a dictionary and read what amnesty means

Answer 2

The law on the books offers more border security than this one does. What they are saying is that despite the fact that they just passed those laws in October, they won't fund them unless we take this one. But NOW we are supposed to trust them that they will enforce in the future.

We don't. You can't say 'this is the last time I'm lying' and expect people to trust you.

However, that is only part of the problem with this bill.

And even the government has estimated this bill would reduce illegal immigration only 13%. And it would double legal immigration. And it would create a new class of 'temporary workers' without any way to track when they leave, which will cause more overstays. And will have a 10 year statute of limitations on illegal border crossings going forward to create a permenant 'rolling' amnesty for new illegals.

What was it again about this bill that is supposed to be GOOD?

Answer 3

Huh, you say it's NOT amnesty, but it's kind of funny that the big dummy in the White house said it is! Bush calls Immigration Bill 'Amnesty'

BEN FELLER
AP
Tuesday June 26, 2007

In every emphatic way, President Bush has declared repeatedly that his immigration bill does not offer amnesty.
And then, on Tuesday, he said it did.

"You know, I've heard all the rhetoric—you've heard it, too—about how this is amnesty," Bush told advocates of his immigration overhaul. "Amnesty means that you've got to pay a price for having been here illegally, and this bill does that."

That's not what Bush meant. Saying that his bill included amnesty was the last thing he meant.

When word started to get out about the gaffe in media reports, the White House scrambled to fix it.

Answer 4

No bill. Just enforce the laws on the books. Reward legal immigrants like Craig Fergeson with citizenship. Make English the official language. Only allow citizens to work here. That way we can all work. People should only be living and working in their own countries. So if you're not pro American, you shouldn't be living or working here. And if you aren't applying for citizenship and aren't going to be an American, stay out of it. If you're pro American you must like our way of life so adapt to it which means give an American a job, learn English, obey the law. None of these bills addresses anything that hasn't already been addressed and later ignored.
If I can't get a light duty job, welfare or SSI why the hell should a foreigner? that makes no ******* sense.
Citizens first.

Answer 5

This bill or no bill? How about option 3 - ENFORCE OUR CURRENT LAWS!

How can you believe ANYTHING that comes out of him mouth. He is a liar and an idiot. Because he likes it is a good reason to question it and NOT support it! Kennedy has been out of touch with reality and real life for about 45 years! (He's been in the Senate for that long.)

BTW, this wonderful $4.4 Billion of border protection would take care of the CA border only. The money is not even close to be enough and Jorge Bush is so please that this is part of the Senate's pile of crap!

I hope you are aware that the fines that are paid will only be paid by those that apply for citizenship. All the Z-Visa & Greencard holders pay NOTHING!

Anybody that thinks this piece of crap will stop illegla aliens from comming needs to get a grip of reallity. Billions want to come and billions more will come for the next round of amnesty!

No matter how you slice it, this bill is amnesty becasue they want to forgive the crimes of a group of people.

WRITE YOUR SENATORS! TELL THEM TO VOTE NO ON THIS HORRIBLE DESTRUCTIVE AMNESTY BILL!

Answer 6

Sorry, fell for that lie in '86, not going to fall for it again. Show me the enforcement, first, then we can talk Amnesty. No bill is required to enforce the laws we have - they're already on the books.

Answer 7

Well the first problem is that its Ted Kennedy the same idiot that promised us a secure border in 1986 Like I would fall for that trick again.

Answer 8

Yes it is amnesty..,how about the people who are here legally and have been waiting in line for years for citizenship,its not fair to them.Lets try enforcing the laws we have and it will take care of the problem and stop prosecuting our border patrol agents that are doing their job.

Answer 9

Ahhh Ted Kennedy, Hic.

Answer 10

Why were the promised laws not enforced in 1986?

End of argument.

Answer 11

No bill IS better than this bill! However, enforcing our current laws is the correct answer.