"who is the beast?"
Nero. Of course, that rather shoots to pieces one of your favorite fairy stories.
"A fragment from the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament shows that the number of the Beast of Revelation 13 is 616. Ellen Aitken, a professor of early Christian history at McGill University, states that “the majority opinion seems to be that it refers to [the Roman emperor] Nero.”1 The early fragment supports the view that Revelation was written prior to the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, and whether the number is 666 or 616, the number is a reference to Nero and not some end-time antichrist figure. Only time will tell how this discovery will affect dispensationalism.
"The first readers of Revelation were told to “calculate the number of the Beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six” (13:18). Since Revelation was written to a first-century audience, we should expect the first-century readers to be able to calculate the number with relative ease and understand the result. They would have had few candidates from which to choose. Notice that the number is “six hundred and sixty-six, not three sixes.” Tim LaHaye misidentifies the number when he writes, “The plain sense of Scripture tells us that it comprises the numbers: six, six, six.”2 The three Greek letters that make up the number represent 600, 60, and 6.
"Ancient numbering systems used an alpha-numeric method. This is true of the Latin (Roman) system that is still common today: I=1, V=5, X=10, L=50, C=100, D=500, M=1000. Greek and Hebrew follow a similar method where each letter of their alphabets represents a number. The first nine letters represent 1–9.3 The tenth letter represents 10, with the nineteenth letter representing 100 and so on. Since the Book of Revelation is written in a Hebrew context by a Jew with numerous allusions to the Old Testament, we should expect the solution to deciphering the meaning of six hundred and sixty-six to be Hebraic. "The reason clearly is that, while [John] writes in Greek, he thinks in Hebrew, and the thought has naturally affected the vehicle of expression."4
"When Nero Caesar's name is transliterated into Hebrew, which a first-century Jew would probably have done, he would have gotten Neron Kesar or simply nrwn qsr, since Hebrew has no letters to represent vowels. “It has been documented by archaeological finds that a first century Hebrew spelling of Nero's name provides us with precisely the value of 666. Jastrow's lexicon of the Talmud contains this very spelling.”5 When we take the letters of Nero's name and spell them in Hebrew, we get the following numeric values: n=50, r=200, w=6, n=50, q=100, s=60, r=200 = 666. “Every Jewish reader, of course, saw that the Beast was a symbol of Nero. And both Jews and Christians regarded Nero as also having close affinities with the serpent or dragon. . . . The Apostle writing as a Hebrew, was evidently thinking as a Hebrew. . . . Accordingly, the Jewish Christian would have tried the name as he thought of the name—that is in Hebrew letters. And the moment that he did this the secret stood revealed. No Jew ever thought of Nero except as ‘Neron Kesar.’”6
"The fragment supports the reading of some Greek New Testament manuscripts that read 616 instead of 666. Why would someone making a copy of the Revelation scroll make such a number change? “Perhaps the change was intentional, seeing that the Greek form Neron Caesar written in Hebrew characters (nrwn qsr) is equivalent to 666, whereas the Latin form Nero Caesar (nrw qsr) is equivalent to 616.” A Latin copyist might have thought that 666 was an error because Nero Caesar did not add up to 666 when transliterated into Latin. He then changed 666 to 616 to conform to the Latin rendering since it was generally accepted that Nero was the Beast. In either case, a Hebrew transliteration nets 666, while a Latin spelling nets 616. Nero was the “man” and either 666 or 616 was his number."
2007-06-27 11:08:43
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answered by Anonymous
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I will never support a big brother program. Though China would.
Seriously, can you stop using the bible to criticize modern technology? There are better reasons for opposing a universal implanted microcip.
You could easily say that social security numbers are the "mark of the beast," and they have been around for a long time. People have been playing religious games for centuries.
2007-06-27 11:14:00
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answered by Dalarus 7
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Have you ever heard the story of the boy who cried wolf?
He ran through town screaming "wolf, wolf." The villagers were scared back into their houses and the guards came to save him. It turns out, there wasn't actually a wolf. He did it again, and again, and again, until everyone stopped believing him because he had been proven to be a liar. Eventually, a wolf came, he ran through town screaming "wolf, wolf" just as before, and no one listened. The guards didn't come to save him and he got eaten.
People have been screaming that the "end times are upon us" for over 2,000 years (yes, they even did so before the birth of Jesus). They have always been proved wrong. No one with any intelligence at all listens any more because the doomsayers have been proven to be nuts.
If you want anyone to listen to your claims that the "end times are upon us," maybe you should stop making that claim every day and instead wait until there is some legitimate evidence for it.
Your news story has nothing at all to do with the "mark of the beast." There is nothing at all demonic about a microchip with medical information that can save your life in an emergency.
2007-06-27 11:16:28
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answered by scifiguy 6
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I have made the connection and will say that it could be a POSSIBLE fulfillment of the prophecy.
Bible prophecy is given to us for the purpose of recognizing events that COULD be the fulfillment thereof. While they are given to us as a way of encouraging us to stay on the watch, we certainly can't say emphatically, at this time, if this will be the fulfillment of that passage. We simply don't have enough information. I think, though, that there could be a danger in getting overwhelmed with such speculation to a point where we are distracted by a red herring so that we don't see the real deal when it presents itself. Far better to simply concentrate on doing God's will each day and let Him worry about the details.
2007-06-27 11:06:28
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answer #4
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answered by Simon Peter 5
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You will take anything and make it fit your scripture. You don't need the chip to be the mark of the beast you can already be tracked. You have a drivers license or state ID, you will soon need a passport to go out of and back into the US, your bank tracks your credit/debit purchases, credit cards, the internet... after all how do you think they put together a credit statement?
2007-06-27 11:00:40
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answered by genaddt 7
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It is possible but not done (as yet) in the US. Some parents think it is a good idea but they are not thinking it through. Who is going to scan the chip if the child is kidnapped? Will kids try to remove them themselves later in life so they can get away with being some place their parents don't want them? Just take it our and put it in something else. GPS information is already available in phones that parents buy and don't tell their kids about.
2016-04-01 08:01:26
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answered by Anonymous
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oh, dear. Not another one. They say this about every new technology that identifies you in any way: credit cards, ssn's, chips; every generation has a new answer for everything that is in Revelation. My advice to you is to not take everything so literally. My question to you is that if this is the mark of the beast, then who is the beast?
2007-06-27 10:58:34
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answer #7
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answered by mountain_laurel1183 5
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You have been here all day long!!!! You are obsessed! I have gone away and come back to the computer like 12 times and everytime I come back there is ANOTHER bizarre question from you!
2007-06-27 10:59:49
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answered by NONAME 5
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You are all about conspiracy theories and the end of the world now aren't you.
I will pray for you...you must have a terribly sad life to always be looking for the bad and the end...instead of living for the glory of the days that God gives us.
2007-06-27 10:56:52
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answered by G.C. 5
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Am not a Christian but having grown up in this society, there is no way in hell you could plant one of those microchips in my cat, never the less me. How people seem to think it's ok to plant them in their children so they can be found should they become lost. Well, lets just say, not my kid.
2007-06-27 11:00:26
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answered by repstat 3
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