Catholics & all Christians: Is Paganism just a reflection of the Truth of Christianity?

Question

The best told lies are slight variations on the truth. The Pagan "religions" are very good lies. The Liar was even capable of projecting them into human history in what appears to be before Jesus Christ was in the world.

Some of the extensive lies are the reincarnation, seasonal rebirth, and even sacraficial stories and behavior. None of them come close to the Truth. The closest mankind, under the influence of Satan, has been able to copy the Truth is by sacrificing its own children (something that was never even in God's mind). None of Paganism shows the mercy and love of God. He sacrificed His own Son.

The illusion that these religions came "before" Christianity is a point of confusion for some who are already confused by engaging in the occult. Christ is I AM. These other religions did not exist until creation. Christ is the Word of creation, He created the world. Satan didn't project the Pagan religions into the world before the Fall.

Yours in Christ Jesus, Grace

Yes, Catholics are Christians, hence the statement Catholics and all Christians is the address. I am a Catholic. Grace

Not a Troll. I read ALL answers. Grace

God says, in response to the worshipers of Baal, that the sacrifice of humans to false gods wasn't even in His mind.

I condemn no one. Not even the I AM condemns in this world. All final judgement belongs to Him. Grace

Answer 1

this is a good question actually...

Let me remind you the about the Virgin of Guadalupe in Mexico, whose image began to be venerated on the same area on which stood the statue an important indigenous godes, "our venerable mother, Lady Snake." In comparison to this godess, however, the image of the Virgin wears no mask, and her face is visible.

According to Pope Benedict, this shows an important point. The new image took up the old and unified it around a new center.

The Virgin Mary (and Christianity) stands above religions, but doesn't trample them, rather purifies and complements them, and assimilates them into unity.

I think the same could be said about Catholicism in relation to the Protestant denominations too - it doesn't want to trample them down and destroy them, but rather to make them whole.

*ps: for more "secrets" on the Virgin of Guadalupe: visit this site:
http://www.dfinitivo.com/archivos/2006/12/12/guadalupe-los-secretos-de-la-virgen-morena/

Answer 2

You demonstrate very little understanding of the religions you condemn.

And, by the way, "None of Paganism shows the mercy and love of God. He sacrificed His own Son"...is factually incorrect. Are you seriously contending that in all the history of pre-Christian religions there are no narratives of divine sacrifices of God-Sons? You are underinformed. Such stories of the sacrifice of sacred God-King-Sons are plentiful in the Mediterranean Basin region prior to the advent of Christianity. This religious pattern is called Tanist reverence. Are you familiar with Tammuz, Dumuzi, Osiris, Adonis... Where do you think the Christian myth of the sacrificed Son comes from--Jewish religion? No, it is unthinkable in that context, for Judaism is a monadic monotheistic religion, and God is One and cannot be sacrificed. On the other hand, Paganism is full of Divine sacrifices, and through Hellenism Christianity absorbed this myth and made it its own.

Your vitriolic spew against Pagan religions needs more research; you come across as a petty zealot with no information to base your offensive claims upon.

PS/ Paganism is much older than Christianity. And that is why Christianity is influenced by Pagan thought. Radical idea? Read Thomas Aquinas.

Answer 3

There are flaws with any religion. I can understand why you have asked this question, but if you want an answer to something like this, you really should talk to a Pagan. And you can't be biased to your own religion if this is something you really want an answer to. It doesn't matter what you believe, everyone has to have something to believe in and there is no sense in condemning various faiths just because they don't agree with yours. There are many flaws in the Bible to where someone may look at it one way, but that doesn't always make it so. Just as there are flaws with Paganism. Religion is an interpretation on what the heart feels is right. If you feel like Jesus saved you, then that is what you follow. If you believe that there is a Mother and Father, then that is what you follow. Myself, I'm Pagan and Proud. But that doesn't make me a heathen. I went to a Pentecostal church as a child and I didn't feel whole. So I found other religions that I felt, in my heart, was right. But if you were to look at me on the street, or in a church, you wouldn't condemn me because I look just like you. But now that you know my religion, you will. Blessed Be

Answer 4

The earliest form of belief that we have been able to find up to date was cave drawing of what appeared to be bonfires with people dancing around them, as in a ritual, the earliest people believed in the most basic of things, animals, earth, moon, sun, fire, etc. So if you want to get technical paganism was the first type of religion. And if you can prove that your almighty created the universe then i will bow down right here and now. Otherwise i am going to continue to believe in my heathen gods and believe in the big bang theory. Christianity and Catholicism didn't fully spring about until long after Christ had died, I mean you can't say Christ was Christian can you, the very word sprang from his name, and i know if he did exist he wasn't that egotistical. If nothing else, he was more then likely raised Jewish, then as he grow up he started to see what was wrong with the church and lead people by what he believed, I doubt he ever asked anyone to believe in him as God or in his mother. For the most part (although you can consider them divine beings) they were human, if you want to believe in something then believe in a deity. I think i have said enough for now.
Brightest Blessings.

Answer 5

The Pagan religion is by no means a "lie". Anyone with any real knowledge of history would know this. For example, Bridget was a Celtic goddess long before she was a saint. Many Catholic saints are actually derived from former gods and goddess. Many of the customs followed in Christianity, such as the Christmas tree and Easter eggs, come from former Pagan practices. The clergy adopted many of these customs in an attempt to make the transition from Pagan practice to Christianity more easy for those they wanted to convert. Additionally, there are many Christian sites in Ireland and elsewhere which were originally sites visited by those engaged in the Goddess culture (again, I note the location where the sacred fire of Bridget was kept). Satan does not exist in Pagan culture (and it's interesting to note that the word Hell is derived from Hel, who was actually a Norse goddess of the underworld, where souls went after death to rest for a bit before moving onward). The Pagan religion revolves around respect for the earth (something we should all learn a little more about), love and tolerance for one's fellows, equality among the sexes, doing the right thing and harming none. I see little love in a religion that tells non followers that they will go to hell if they don't follow their belief system (it sounds a bit like the way cults work), or a religion that has caused untold harm and suffering to people (such as the Jewish people) simply because they refused to convert to the Christian faith, but if you choose to follow such a God, more power to you. I hope that you follow your religion with love and patience in your heart. Just get your facts straight before you start downing religions you so obviously know very little about. If you want to learn about any religion, go to the source, to someone who actually knows what they are talking about (for example, if you want to learn about Judaism, go talk with a Rabbi, not a Jew for Jesus. The message you get will be very different- see the website for Jews for Judaism and read about what they have to say about Jesus). In peace..

Answer 6

LOL - you're a troll, right?


"closest mankind, under the influence of Satan, has been able to copy the Truth is by sacrificing its own children (something that was never even in God's mind). None of Paganism shows the mercy and love of God. He sacrificed His own Son."

what the hell????? how was that never in god's mind then you say he did that very thing, and out of LOVE????


LOL funny troll

Answer 7

Basically what it boils down to is that few people could read and write back them, and as with all story tellers, the more "facts" you have to put in your story, the more believable it is to others, and the easier it is to persuade them into thinking it is the truth. The combinations of Judaism, paganism, Roman worship, Greek worship, the new Covenant of Jesus, all rolled into one compose the New Testament. It made it easier to get people to follow Christianity. At that time, I believe that these people were doing what Jesus had asked them to about spreading the word. They had to translate, make adjustments where the people could see similarities and find comfort in the familiarity. It's a big mess, but just a simple message, to love one another.

Answer 8

The thing is, Christianity, per se, didn't exist until his incarnation, so even if you start with Christ being around since the beginning, the religion named after him didn't start until far later. (Now, you can argue that the Jewish religion was around since the beginning, but I expect people to disagree with that.)

Also, if sacrificing children was never in God's mind (and, how, exactly, is it that you know what is/isn't on God's mind?), how do you explain the whole thing with Isaac? Just a "test" to see if Abraham was willing to obey God? A joke, so he could say, "Ha, just kidding"?

Answer 9

"The Liar was even capable of projecting them into human history in what appears to be before Jesus Christ was in the world."

*retrieving jaw from floor*

So . . . what you're really saying here is that the DEVIL, thousands of years before Yeshua bin Josef arrived on the scene, *knew* the specifics of 1. his earthly incarnation, 2. the events of his future life, 3. his death and resurrection, 4., his message . . . and "implanted" all of these things in OTHER religions---Egyptian, Roman, Greek, Etruscan, and so forth---so that two thousand years AFTER the fact, people could point to those other stories and claim your faith was "made up?"

Wow.

You know, that's a wall I'm just not going to beat my head against this early in the morning.

Answer 10

"We are not evil. We don't harm or seduce people. We are not dangerous. We are ordinary people like you. We have families, jobs, hopes, and dreams. We are not a cult. This religion is not a joke. We are not what you think we are from looking at T.V. We are real. We laugh, we cry. We are serious. We have a sense of humor. You don't have to be afraid of us. We don't want to convert you. And please don't try to convert us. Just give us the same right we give you--to live in peace. We are much more similar to you than you think." ~~MARGOT ADLER ( and as always...if anyone wants to RANT and some troll,nimrod,ect. ALWAYS does.. contact me on here or belly up to the BAR at paganism:2 in yahoo chats. thanks and BLESSED BE! )