Muslims,how can you possibly want America and its allies out of of Iraq?

Question

Yes it's true that there is carnage on both sides;but there will be greater carnage if the coalition leaves.

Answer 1

WOW, OK...first off....for those of you IDIOTS that have never even BEEN to Iraq and think that somehow the world should hear out your opinion....2 words for ya...SHUT UP!!

There is 1,000,000 times more behind the scene actions going on that is SO much more than the media intends to share with you. The general pubilc across the world (about 90% of which need to refer to paragraph 1) doesn't want us there, so the media THRIVES off of that and will air whatever they can to support the whole Iraq conflict, b/c they get better ratings and more stories off of it.

Secondly, it IS NOT the Iraqi populus that wants us out. It's other countries and and organizations (i.e. IRAN & Al Qaeda) that don't like the thought of Christians (especially Americans) and muslims working together for a common cause. These countries and oraganizations are backed by the weak-minded Sunni extremist in Iraq (i.e. Takferi, Wahabi, etc.) that strive and work to cause harm to Coalition Forces b/c they want to run the country as Saddam did. THESE people are the ones that want us out. And if we leave, then all of our work and the sacrifce of thousands of Coalition men and women will be lost and the innocent and hard working men,women, and children of Iraq will continue to live in poverty and hardship.

Iraq is at a civil war,not much different than our own. Different groups in Iraq with different beliefs have opposing views of how the country should be ran. Each one wants to be at the top and will not support the other group unless common ground is found. The base of the common ground is DEMOCRACY!! They all want that in common! And as Americans were are born with the title "Defenders of Freedom and Democracy". If we leave that country, then we are running away from our own responsibility. And DO NOT EVER AGAIN say that you just want the troops to come home, or your sick of people dying in battle. Don't worry about us. We WANT to be there! We volunteer to go, b/c it is our HONOR and our DUTY as Americans! And quite frankly, if you feel that we shouldn't be involved in some other countries dispute, that some other country doesn't deserve to have the same rights as we do....then get the hell out of my country that I and thousnds of others risk our lives defending for you on a daily basis. Last time I checked, I didn't recall SELFISHNESS being an admirable trait of the common American.

P.S. If you felt offended by my answer, or felt that I was speaking directly to you, please feel free to do one of two things.....A) E-mail my directly with your concern and we can discuss it like adults, or 2) REFER TO PARAGRAPH ONE!!

Answer 2

Yes ,you're right.there will be greater carnage if the coalition leaves.
of course foreign millitary existence is not so pleasant but there's so many But's....
Decision over iraq is NOT a business of all muslims.so there's NOT something you can call (united) Iraq.Iraq is now broken up as a de facto.iraqi fronts hate each other more than US.sunni's and shiite's are responsible for most of this horrible carnage.and finally all should accept resolution of iraq.

Who's responsible?
1-Pan Islamism & Arabic extremism
2-British colonialism that created this fake country out of Ottoman empire.

Answer 3

Isn't it ironic?

Saddam understood the only way to hold the waring factions at bay was with force. He created a modern, secular country with an advanced infrastructure, excellent medical and educational facilities and a reasonable expectation of security for the Iraqi people. Yes, he committed some horrid acts, but the harsh reality is that these kind of acts are common in the history of ANY developing country. the UK and US both have a long history of brutal opression against certain sections of their own people in the past - ask the Catholics, or the blacks, or native americans. Look at our own civil wars and the unspeakable acts perpetrated against our "enemies" in the last 100 years. WE ARE NO BETTER.

Iraq was well on the way to becoming an excellent example for the rest of the Muslim world. If the US, UK and UN had SUPPORTED Saddam instead of 10 years of economic embargo's (which, incidentally, caused the deaths of far more Iraqis than Saddam ever did) and encouraged him in the direction of eventual democratic elections, all this could have been avoided. Saddam would have had to move eventually - too many of his own people would have demanded it - it would have been a natural process.

You may not know this, but Saddam origionally gained power in a military coup organised, funded and with weapons supplied by - wait for it - THE CIA. Don't believe me? Check it out - do your own research. The Americans removed an Islamic theocracy through force by proxy and replaced them with a hard-man dictator who would guarantee a supply of oil to the US and hold the muslims at bay. Seems he was a little too successful for their liking and gained too much power.

Answer 4

Muslims want freedom from US occupation.Freedom is the right of any country.Soon after the US troops leave there may be a civil war between Shias and Sunnis .But it may not last long.Military may take over.But thereafter killings will come down.It is better .At the present rate of genocide by US troups no body will be left in Iraq by dec 2008.There were civil wars in USA/West and in many countries in the past and it is not a justification for permanent occupation.Let the people of Iraq decide their fate/future.
I am not a Muslim.Not against US.Justice demand pull out by US.

Answer 5

There is a heavy burden of responsibility sitting with the "Coalition" in Iraq - we made the mess in the first place through what was essentially an illegal invasion. It is also unlawful to purposely set about changing the leadership of a soverign nation through military force.

However, the problem is much more diverse that that. There are several "insurgent" groups, each with their own agenda, structure and so forth. The coalition forces, who now that they have invaded and successfully removed Saddam an (many of) his cronies, and nw having to perform a dual-role - both act as a military presence in support of the Iraqi army, such as it is at the moment, but also have to police the country as well.
Now, because the UK have had more experience in this type of role than any other county in the world, predominantly in Northern Ireland, but elsewhere as well, and because of the lessons learned there, a more engaging-with-the-public-yet-remian-highly-visible-and-approachable type technique means that they are highly competent to undertake this dual role, which is why they have had, pro-rata, fewer deaths and casualities than the Americans, who true to form are extremely gung-ho in their approach - shoot first, ask questions later, and they do use an level of force and indeed violence that is truly out of proportion to the problem - flattening entire neighbourhoods to simply kill one sniper. This is a battle of force, of course, but also about winning the confidence of the Iraqi people away from the insurgent groups. It will be a long-drawn-out, bloody exercise, but it needs to be seen to a conclusion. We can't just cut and run and leave the area more dangerous for individual men, women & children than it was under the Ba'ath party.

Moves have already been made to allow the Iraqi army & police to take more ownership of the peace-keeping & security responsibilities, but at teh moment, they still need the support, training & back-up of the UK, US and other forces. When the region has stabilised and the threat to civilians has dramatically reduced, through the actions of the coalition forces, but primarily through the Iraqis taking on more responsibility as their skills develop, and the confidence of the people is strengthen from seeing a more highly visible and actve Iraqi securioty presence (and the gradual reduction in coalition troops & equipment), then we should pull out, but remain in the region to be on-hand should things escalate - possibly a Division somewhere not too far away, but far enough to be considered "removed".

This war is a terrible, terrible thing, quite unlike any other conflict before it, and we have to maintain our responsibility to complete the job we set out to do. We owe it to the Iraqi people, having made their nation a war-torn bloodbath.

Just my two-penneth.

Bush.

Answer 6

When will you Americans realise that the world doesn't dislike you as individuals, but that it does dislike your politicians' overbearing belief that you are always right and that you will not leave anywhere when asked! This has been going on a long, long time. Ask the French about having to get nasty to make the US give up its land bases in France in the 1960s. Ask the people who live near the American bases in Germany what they think of having an occupying force still there 60 years after WW2 finished. Ask people who live near US bases in UK whether the Americans join in local life. They don't. Relatives in Germany who live near one of the biggest US bases say that the GIs are not welcome in the town as they do nothing but negatively criticize in loud voices, do not respect local customs or laws and never have a good word to say for anything non-American.

Countries and peoples who have not had the 'benefit' of Americanisation do not necessarily want it. People in the middle east are suspicious of US and UK motives for getting involved - aren't we all - and believe that the Iraq invasion was far more to do with oil than human rights.

I happen to have quite a large number of American friends - all of them ex-pats who say that they did not notice these problems until they left the US because the media in America are so very, very, insular. They now find themselves apologising for their country quite often; I know more than one who has consciously tried to loose their accents and who do their best to disown their fellow countrymen when not in America. THEY say that America may be 'the land of the free' but US politicians don't seem to believe that anyone else should have their own freedom.

Freedom means the right of everyone to make their own mistakes. If that means fighting over what seems to others to be silly things, then so be it. Bible belt, tub-thumping politics is not always right.

Answer 7

people dont seem to realise just because the war has ended doesnt mean everything is hunky dory, far from it the country needs stability. insurgents and opressors will keep going until they realise peaceful solution is the only way forward.

you only have to look at northern ireland to see this.

Answer 8

well i am talking with you as a secular girl, don't believe the media or Arabic countries, all of Arabic countries don't want us( i am Iraqi) to live in peace, they just want us to suffer more and more.
and all of our religions in Iraq want you to stay and what a business is it of Muslims in general with the situations in Iraq, every thing is up to the Iraqis at last.

Answer 9

Im not a muslim but I recently watched a programme where the Americans moved a family out of their house as they needed it to make a base for themselves. The family had no where to go and couldnt take any of their belongings.
Personally, if their was a war in my country and somone was occupying it and just throwing people out of houses, killing my friends and family and generally making it difficult just to go and get some food from a shop, I would want them to leave too.

Answer 10

Each side knows that and have made that very clear to the soldiers.

The media doesn't want to tell you that, though.