Dammit, my irony meter broke again.
Anyway, to address this waste of a question.
"Why won't atheists listen to reason?"
I find it funny that you ask this, and then proceed to abandon reason.
"but the fact remains that the only way into Heaven is through Jesus."
We don't believe in heaven. Convince us that heaven exists.
"How can people be so blind as to not accept the truth?"
Damn good question. What makes you think you have any? "Truth" seems to be a Christian buzzword.... sorry, chum, but you don't have a monopoly on that concept. If you needed to proclaim it as "truth", it wouldn't need apologetics to rationalize every blatant contradiction and inconsistency.
"I have a theory that atheists do not really exist."
Then your theory is shot down by my existence. Next.
"I think that deep down in their hearts they know the truth, it's just that they're lying to themselves."
Doesn't make you right, comrade. Where are you getting this from? There is NOTHING wrong with my beliefs. Hell, you don't have to agree with them, I certainly don't agree with yours. But don't have the audacity to second-guess my psychology in the process. That's just arrogant.
"Not being a Christian may seem innocent, but it is a sin."
Like we care. Sin is a cultist concept... it does not exist in my world. It only exists in yours. It's the rules of YOUR religion, not mine.
"I hope you find the right path."
Which, of course, is yours, right?
Funny you request us to have "an open mind"... when yours is completely closed.
2007-06-26 17:17:16
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answered by Anonymous
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Now, I'd thought I'd heard it all from fundamentalist theists, but this is certainly a new, condescending low. How haughty art though, assuming: A - That no other religion may achieve what Christianity proclaims to do (i.e. - "I don't want anything bad to happen to atheists or NON-CHRISTIANS") and B - not-so-subtly intimating that atheists are too stupid to understand the definition of a word so basic as "truth."
How do you determine the truth when it applies to the supernatural? Hell, talking to and believing in the existence of something no one can see, hear, touch, taste, or feel is a big red flag of mental instability, according to psychology. I'm also affronted, personally, by the accusation that I "never use my heart." Anyone with even the remotest sensitivity to another's beliefs and rights would never attempt to debase another's faith, or their complete lack thereof. However, being the steadfast Christian this person obviously is, that course of action is apparently not only a right, but a requisite to becoming a member of his or her faith.
As for the snide conclusion on his part... well, if you want to sound elitist, that's a good way to go about it.
Nice job, you insincere and insecure fundie. Atheists exist! We subscribe to no supernatural paradigm, we're here, we're without fear, get used to it!
2007-06-26 18:08:29
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answered by ? 2
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How can people like you be so blind as to accept a belief as a truth? If there is a heaven, and Jesus is the only way to get there, could you please offer some of the proof. It is you who is lying to yourself. It is you who are blind. We hope you find the right path. We wonder why you are the one who does not use heart. You are obviously not using your brain, so I guess it's not that big of a surprise. Peace out.
2007-06-26 17:30:47
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answered by Anonymous
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"Why won't Atheists listen to reason?"
"I think that deep down in their hearts they know the truth, it's just that they're lying to themselves."
So... you strawman people, and after you blatantly lie to them about something they know better than anyone else and you can't possibly know, (i.e. How their own minds work) you wonder why they won't take anything else you say seriously.
2016-12-17 18:04:52
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answered by ? 4
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We don't accept the "truth" because it is not our truth. We don't believe in heaven, Jesus, or God. How can people just blindly believe based on nothing but a book? All your arguments can be turned and used against you.
Nice theory, but incorrect. You don't know what I believe in, other than that I don't believe in God. Deep down in my heart, I firmly believe there is no god of any flavor.
I have found the right path, and it works for me. Stop with the conversion attempts already. If I haven't "found God" yet after 35 years on the planet, what makes you think your words are going to convince me now?
2007-06-26 17:21:30
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answered by ReeRee 6
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Before I accept any type of truth, I require incontrovertible, empirical evidence. The Big Bang has science behind it. Evolution has science behind it.
Your bible and your religion has mythology and suggestion, neither of which is "truth."
I ask why don't YOU listen to reason? Why can't you understand that not everyone believes in your god and that's OKAY? Why do you feel the need to condemn me and mine because we don't believe what you do? I don't condemn YOU because you believe... I have patience and I listen to your point of view. I've learned all about what you believe... but yet, all I get is condemnation, not understanding or even an attempt to understand my POV.
I do not believe god exists... and I have found the right path. My heart is open and I have an open mind. Your question details show me that you do not have either.
2007-06-26 17:28:38
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answered by Rogue Scrapbooker 6
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Because Christians like you don't preach reason. You want to indoctrinate the whole world so it groans under a theocratic yoke. Fortunately more and more people are waking up to the fact that You Do Not Have A Lock On The Truth, no matter how much you like to pretend to yourself that you do.
I have a theory about fundy Christians. I think deep down you know that religious and intellectual freedom is the natural state of human beings and it terrifies you so much that all you can do is preach louder and louder to try and drown out your own fear.
2007-06-26 17:21:32
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answered by Nightlight 6
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listening to reason is why I have been given out of te non secular section interior the 1st place. this is not a "small field" in any respect. in actuality, that's a miles better field than being trapped into some religions dogma. I now stay in a international this is increasing on an wide-spread basis, not being constrained to experiencing basically what some church, preacher or e book tells me is okay. this is greater authentic seeking to be loose to locate the international with out rose tinted glasses. My senses have been opened to all the international, not basically what some faith tells me to adventure and the thank you to adventure it.
2016-12-08 19:46:03
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answered by Anonymous
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Bless your heart but your definition of reason needs tuning.
Reason involves logic, not spiritual connection to God.
To accept God, or Jesus, requires the acceptance of certain premises that are the very premises Christianity can't prove (and doesn't need to, as you have religious freedom to believe as you choose).
As long as you label your argument "reason", but offer no premises, no conclusion, nothing to show the connection between the premises and the conclusion, and no check to show that the premises are true in the first place, no person with single quarter of training in critical thinking or logic is going to consider discussing it with you.
They do listen to reason. You haven't offered it. You've offered a belief, and a way for them to test that belief for themselves.
Those are very different things, and the barrier between you and those you talk to is partially your own making.
Don't appeal to reason without using reason. It distances those who actually do know the definition of "reason".
Keep speaking up, regardless.
2007-06-26 17:28:17
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answered by mckenziecalhoun 7
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Here is something I wrote the other day, please read it:
From birth to the age of 17 I was a devout Christian. I read the entire Bible, and re-read many parts 100's if not 1000's of time.
I had an intricate knowledge of all the beliefs and teachings of my faith. As a child I was fully capable of having a religious debate with any adult.
I grew up isolated (home school for 10 years and for the most part had little or no association with any not sharing my faith) and had no knowledge of a life outside of my religion.
I was utterly brainwashed, in that I had had my life and mind flooded with only one way of life, one way of thinking, one set of beliefs. I was taught to dismiss anything outside of this religious lifestyle as wrong, evil and the work of the Devil...no explanation needed. Anything questioning my way of life was ignored or derided.
Then at 16, my family had to move, I went to a public school instead of learning at home. I met new people, did new things and saw different points of view.
I realised how false my life and beliefs were, and that the only reason I 'believed' was that I knew of nothing else. I felt like a small child who had been kept in a single room all their life, and told that nothing existed outside of that room, and then one day, they were led out into the world beyond those four walls.
Then I met someone...a wonderful man who accepted me for who I was and gave me unconditional love. The more I loved him, the more I realised that I had used my religion as a substitute for human love and warmth. I had blindly accepted the religion, because if I did not have that, if that was false, then I had NOTHING...nothing at all...no family, no 'friends', no future.
Without the need and yearning for the religion, I began to see through the deceptions and lies. I was disgusted at the falsehoods and hypocracy.
When I came to these realisations, I felt so betrayed and hurt by those who had co-erced me into this way of life, under the threat of rejection and the loss of their 'love'.
It still tears me apart that I wasted so many precious years in superstition, lies and fear. It was a 17 year long guilt trip. Three years on, I am slowly re-building my life, and seeing things for how they really are. Every day is a new day, and I can honestly say, I have never been happier.
I strive to be a good person, to do the right thing, to live peacefully and promote tolerance.
I wish only to live in peace and not be attacked for my way of life or beliefs.
2007-06-26 17:20:44
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answered by . 6
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First they believe in reason( however there is alimit to their reason If it is not in agreement with their paradigm) second they are materialistsBy this I mean if they can use there senses they do not believe it exists ( however they do believe in thought) Third many atheists disbelief in the God they grew up with. ( by this I mean that if they grew up in a Catholic home That is how they perceive the God they don't believe in) What this means is that when you bring up the subject they are hearing the concept they grew up with and not necessarily what you are speaking about. fourth since they believe they have arrived at their belief through reason they have a tendency to 1)look down on those they believe did not use the same reasoning process to come to the opposing belief. abnd 2) believe that reason can not bring one to any assumption than theirs.
2007-06-26 17:32:44
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answered by David F 5
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