Who thinks Jeff Gordon's punishments are BS..He is too far ahead how can we stop him..?? Anyone feel that way?

Question

I just read that Jeff Gordon got fined 100 driver points,100,000 dollars, and crew chief suspended 6 races. Is that not the end of the season? All I'm asking is if this was someone in 20th place in points would the penalty be the same? I doubt it... Nascar has gotten so BS it is unbelievable...

Ok if I asked for JR. Im sorry. I was asking for normal nascar fans. JR. obviously wanted to learn drive so he joined HMS. So those who are bitter about that please make your own QA somewhere else

Answer 1

as a gordon fan i accept the penalties, even thought they were harsh. im pissed about the fact that they got parked. Jr. didnt get parked when he got in trouble, so why should they? I guess Hendrick is going to appeal to NASCAR about the punishment. Gordon is still in the points lead and is goin all the way this year so im still happy.

Answer 2

6 races is not till the end of the season we haven't even gotten to the 10 race for the chase yet
I'm not a Gordon fan or Jr fan I'm a Stewart fan for the record so you know I'm not biast when i make my statement

i do not feel Hendricks teams should have gotten any thing,
except a slap on the wrist and fix it right..
i know what nascar said about their baby the cot car and not touching it much..
but we all know theres more going on anyway.and the templates did fit!!!that's the facts,so at this point i think nascar should have said no this is not what we want,don't mess with this again,,
racing has always had a Grey area that's what the crew-chiefs are for,
in the mean time everyone knows now so the next racer who cheats should really get nailed
and for my man asking the question don't worry bud your crew chiefs are right now working on the cars that will be running in the last ten races,and going to be hard to beat
i hope tony is on his game..

Answer 3

It's not so much a matter of where he is in points as it is a matter of a few other things...

First, Nascar had a session before the beginning of the season with ALL the teams and told them about their policy about not making changes to the COT. They said that the whole point of the COT was to give everyone an equal starting point and to put the act of racing and winning back in a drivers hands.

Second, this is not the first discrepancy that has arisen with the COT. This is the second.. or technically the second and third.. depends on how you want to look at it. In keeping with Nascar's former actions in these sort of instances the second and sequential acts of breaking a rule should warrant harsher and harsher punishments.. but they didn't. In the case of Chad and Jimmy Johnson... there's a HUGE issue there.. one that needs to be looked at by both Hendrick and Nascar.

Third, and most importantly, is the fact that Nascar is making things up as they go... they have been since NEXTEL took over sponsorship. The claim they're trying to make it a better series and more fan friendly but in truth they aren't. There's no standing set of punishments for breaking rules. This could be the exact reason why people like Chad continue to cheat. 100 points and $100,000 are pocket change to these guys most of the time. Look at how many points Jimmie has... and how many he'd need to loose to fall out of the chase. $100,000 might not be pocket change to us but when you think about the fact that drivers make millions each year off everything from sponsors, to endorsements, merchandise, appearances, ect ect. That just means it's one or two activities that they end up doing " for free".


If you ask me the real answer to this drama is to do a few simple things. Make an official list of base punishments for certain cheating events and activities... then in instances of repeat offenders and extreme situations you can be more stern. Then, take into consideration the possible effects of actions and penalties. If It's nothing more than a smack on the hand... UP THE FRIGGIN COST!

Answer 4

We must first consider why Jeff Gordon is so far ahead in points, and the reason for that is that he runs his car more than he runs his mouth.

Secondly, it is not up to us as fans to stop him - as if such a thing were possible. The only ones with a shot (however remote) of stopping the Jeff Gordon juggernaut would be the other drivers, and precious few of them are stepping up to the plate and getting it done. Many have been close, but close only gets you second or third place.

Lastly, the points position had absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the penalty. It was the same penalty leveled against Dale Jr. and would have been the same penalty if it had been Casey Mears getting in trouble.

Answer 5

The 100 points are similar to what they have been giving other drivers for similar violations this year -- see Waltrip and Earnhardt for example.

However, in this case, the 100 points is meaningless because of the way that the chase works. Even with this 100 point penalty, he is far enough ahead that he will qualify for the chase. At that point, the points are wiped out anyhow and based on current standings -- Johnson and Gordon start the chase in first place based on having the most wins so far. (Of course with 10 races left that could change if someone put a good streak together and got 5 or 6 wins between now and Richmond).

Answer 6

It's crap. They deserved more, and the "they were penalized by missing practice" excuse is just their way of saying "Rick Hendrick paid us enough money to get the bare minimum as a punishment." They said the punishments would escalate. When?

I'm a believer that all teams caught cheating should be suspended for one race, with increasing penalties for each time they're caught. That means driver, crew chief and all. That's the ONLY way it'll stop. And I'm not just saying in this situation...for ALL drivers, and all serious infractions. For every team caught doing something like this, others probably get through unnoticed. And they'll keep pushing the envelope until it's shut down.

Oh, and in a column about this I just read online, it mentioned the drivers in the chase at the end of the season will get 10 additional "bonus" points for each race they win. So regardless of where Johnson and Gordon fall, or how many points they're penalized, they'll probably start first and second with a good lead. I've always wondered why they don't start ALL drivers at 0 points in the chase, and let it go from there. But that's just me. Maybe it's "too fair."

Answer 7

Nascar has stated that all infractions on the COT would involve a 100 point fine.

I really do not believe that all the Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson would be satisfied if they would be stripped of all the points they have accumulated this year. What does everyone want for them to be tried and executed would that make all you morons happy?

The punishment fit the fu*king crime! It is time to move on and whine about something else. By the way I am not really a Gordon or Johnson fan. I just see stupid stuff like this and it pisses me off.

Answer 8

It's just another case of Nascar picking their favorites and trying to rig it to control the final outcome. Nascar gives out penalties to suit their own agenda. No these penalties would not have been the same for certain other drivers. However, I do agree on one point. Nascar Officials are just a bunch of BS. They haven't done anything fair and honest in years. Why should anyone expect them to start now? This is only a ruge in an attempt to hold back a winning driver on a winning streak. However, they will be doing that as soon as the chase starts. That was the whole point of the chase. Now that's when you'll really see a lot of penalties made-up on the spot. The only real cheaters in Nascar is Nascar. They really need a police to police the police, so-to-speak.

Answer 9

Wasn't Jr.'s penalty for the illegal wing mount similar if not the same. Then people were complaining it's to harsh, now because it's Gordon and Johnson, the two most dominant drivers right now, it's too light of a penalty. As long as NASCAR stay consistent I think it will be for the better of the sport.

Answer 10

If it where not for the fact the rule in question was not even on the books; and that Jeff and Jimmie both became the first Drivers prevented from practicing and qualifying for failing inspection; I would say the penalty was fair.

But, NASCAR made up the rule in the garage area and to bench them and then give them the same penalty as a Team that violated a written rule is extremely excessive and unjust. The entire Evernham Team, #17 Team, #55 Team all failed inspection at Daytona, but still got to practice and qualify. The #8 Team when it failed inspection got to practice and qualify. So why is it NASCAR did not allow the 24 and 48 to practice and qualify? That was totaly unjust; andthen to hit them with a penalty as well.....severly unjust.