Why is it that when you ask a Christian on here where the proof of God is.........?

Question

All they can do is post Bible quotes? It's almost like they've been trained to use Bible Quotes as a default response when they get backed into a corner. Are they angry because they are unable to give a real answer?

Answer 1

What kind of answer are you looking for.

Knowledge of God and God in and around a person is subjective.

Many Christians just know and know for their self - this cannot be given only experienced.

You are asking for an objective answer to a subjective which is pretending to be objective.

You get answers from individuals giving subjective answers to a question that is demanding empirical evidence.

I do find it interesting that Christians are quite universal in using what they are taught as an answer. These answers are 2,000 years old and the people feel and experience "God" exactly as these quotes from the bible state.

Proof is all around you in the very existence you live.

I really do not see most of them getting angry myself but that too is subjective.

Peace -C

Answer 2

I will give you a Non-Biblical response.

In your kitchen cabinet, you've probably got a spray
bottle with an adjustable nozzle. If you twist the nozzle
one way, it sprays a fine mist into the air. You twist
the nozzle the other way, it squirts a jet of water
in a straight line. You turn that nozzle to the exact
position you want so you can wash a mirror, clean up
a spill, or whatever.

If the universe had expanded a little faster, the
matter would have sprayed out into space like fine
mist from a water bottle - so fast that a gazillion
particles of dust would speed into infinity and never even
form a single star.

If the universe had expanded just a little slower, the
material would have dribbled out like big drops of water,
then collapsed back where it came from by the force
of gravity.

A little too fast, and you get a meaningless
spray of fine dust. A little too slow, and the whole
universe collapses back into one big black hole.

The surprising thing is just how narrow the difference
is. To strike the perfect balance between too fast and
too slow, the force, something that physicists call
"the Dark Energy Term" had to be accurate to one part in
ten with 120 zeros.

If you wrote this as a decimal, the number would
look like this:

0.000000000000000000000000000000
00000000000000000000000000000000
00000000000000000000000000000000
0000000000000000000000000000001

In their paper "Disturbing Implications of
a Cosmological Constant" two atheist scientists
from Stanford University stated that the existence of
this dark energy term "Would have required a miracle...
An external agent, external to space and time, intervened
in cosmic history for reasons of its own."

Just for comparison, the best human engineering
example is the Gravity Wave Telescope, which was built with
a precision of 23 zeros. The Designer, the 'external
agent' that caused our universe must possess an intellect,
knowledge, creativity and power trillions and trillions
of times greater than we humans have.

Absolutely amazing.

Now a person who doesn't believe in God has to find
some way to explain this. One of the more common explanations
seems to be "There was an infinite number of universes, so it
was inevitable that things would have turned out right
in at least one of them."

The "infinite universes" theory is truly an amazing theory.
Just think about it, if there is an infinite number of
universes, then absolutely everything is not only possible...
It's actually happened!

It means that somewhere, in some dimension, there is
a universe where the Chicago Cubs won the World Series last
year. There's a universe where Jimmy Hoffa doesn't get
cement shoes; instead he marries Joan Rivers and becomes
President of the United States. There's even a
universe where Elvis kicks his drug habit and still
resides at Graceland and sings at concerts. Imagine
the possiblities!

I might sound like I'm joking, but actually I'm dead
serious. TO BELIEVE AN INFINITE NUMBER OF UNIVERSES MADE LIFE POSSIBLE BY RANDOM CHANCE IS TO BELIEVE EVERYTHING ELSE I JUST SAID, TOO.

Some people believe in God with a capital G.

And some folks believe in Chance with a Capital C.

Peace and blessings!

Answer 3

You want a certain response to this answer:
I'll give you what is it:
Because Christians are dumb and kids who believe in fairy tales. They are blind ignorant people that gets angry when provoked by a question which they are unable to give a real answer...

Now to my answer;
Bible is our best book, and same as lawyers quoting paragraphs and or sentences on the Constitution(w/c is still debatable) or the Law of the Land proving their side is correct so are we... We quote from our precious book, our Law of Life to prove that we are correct... now if you can't accept this one, I can't find a thing to make you accepts this one..

And most of all, when I, We, Christians, Muslims, and All Believers, we don't need any proof of what we believe, because the proof that We have, is our self and our faith... and sorry, Faith is not something that you can achieve as a reward, its a gift...

Answer 4

If you want proof, look around for a little while... maybe check out the news every once in a while. What is stem cell research? Basically, take a blank cell, and let it become something useful... Why can't scientists just make cells? I have never heard of anyone actually being able to create life... but without God, it all just somehow came to be? Besides that, what are the building blocks? Law of Conservation of Matter basically says, you can't create something from nothing. Modify that with nuclear chemistry, and you can convert small percentages of matter into energy, and i would assume the opposite is true... but where would the energy or matter come from to start it all off? With God in the picture, it works. He created laws of matter, etc... so at the very least, Christians, and other religions for that matter, have a starting point.

Answer 5

Probably. I had a question up several weeks ago, ("Prove to me that there is a god and a heaven without using any holy book") and got answers with all sorts of bible quotes.

One guy continued to write me... he was an Episcopalian clergy of some sort, believing is Jeeeessuuuuuus. During our week conversation he confessed that he was a Thomasist (Thomas Aquinas) When I outlined for him the five points of Aquinas theology, and pointed out how they long ago had been discarded, then left the last one for a discussion, showing him how with DNA this one was blown out of the water, along with the others, I never heard from the guy again..... This poor guy really was uninformed even in his own belief!!!!!! amazing.

Answer 6

That's funny, because I never use Bible quotes unless the question specifically calls for them. For example, someone wants to know where in the Bible it says a certain thing.

As for questions regarding the existence of God, I do not use Bible quotes. Ever. Look into my Q&A history if you don't believe me.

Answer 7

There is no PROOF of God. There are evidences to suggest that He exists. And those evidences do not come from the Bible only. But it's much easier to quote the Bible.

Answer 8

Because your ability to ask questions is proof of God. The fact that you speak and are self aware is proof. Evolution makes no sense because only the monkey was able to produce an intelligent evolution when reptiles were obviously first to evolve in the theory.

Where are the alligator people, or the bird people? Why is there no other self aware creature on the planet? Where are the semi-aware creatures that are evolving the ability toward invention and ingenuity?

Answer 9

Quoting the Bible to prove the Bible is not logical.

My answer is, when you can prove that he doesn't exist, I'll quit believing in him.

In order for you to be 100% sure that he doesn't exist, then you'd have to have intimate knowlege about every place in the universe at all points in time, which would make you... well... God. OOPS - flaw in the logic!!!!

If you're right, then my eternal destiny is the same. If I'm right, then you'd better pack some sunscreen.

Answer 10

Why do you think only quotes are given? Consider, for example, the modal cosmological argument or “argument from contingency.” It is the argument from the contingency of the world or universe to the existence of God. The argument from contingency is the most prominent form of cosmological argument historically. The classical statements of the cosmological argument in the works of Plato, of Aquinas, and of Leibniz are generally statements of the modal form of the argument.

What distinguishes the mark of the modal cosmological argument is that it is consistent with the idea that the universe has an infinite past, or that it has a finite past. The argument from contingency is consistent with the universe having existed from eternity, as well as having a finite past.

The argument from contingency draws on the distinction between things that exist necessarily and things that exist contingently.

Something is “necessary” if it could not possibly have failed to exist. The laws of mathematics are often thought to be necessary. It is plausible to say that mathematical truths such as two and two making four hold irrespective of the way that the world is. Even if the world were radically different, it seems, two and two would still make four. God, too, is often thought to be a necessary being, i.e. a being that logically could not have failed to exist.

Something is “contingent” if it is not necessary, i.e. if it could have failed to exist. Most things seem to exist contingently. All of the human artifacts around us might not have existed; for each one of them, whoever made it might have decided not to do so. Their existence, therefore, is contingent. You and I, too, might not have existed; our respective parents might never have met, or might have decided not to have children, or might have decided to have children at a different time. Our existence, therefore, is contingent. Even the world around us seems to be contingent; the universe might have developed in such a way that none of the observable stars and planets existed at all.

The argument from contingency rests on the claim that the universe, as a whole, is contingent. It is not only the case, the argument suggests, that each of the things around is us contingent; it is also the case that the whole, all of those things taken together, is contingent. It might have been the case that nothing existed at all. The state of affairs in which nothing existed at all is a logically possible state of affairs, even though it is not the actual state of affairs.

It is this that the argument from contingency takes to be significant. It is because it is thought that the universe exists contingently that its existence is thought to require explanation. If the universe might not have existed, then why does it exist? Proponents of the cosmological argument suggest that questions like this always have answers. The existence of things that are necessary does not require explanation; their non-existence is impossible. The existence of anything contingent, however, does require explanation. They might not have existed, and so there must be some reason that they do so.

Critics of the argument from contingency have sometimes questioned whether the universe is contingent, but it remains at least plausible to think that it is so.

The only adequate explanation of the existence of the contingent universe, the argument from contingency suggests, is that there exists a necessary being on which its existence rests. For the existence of the contingent universe must rest on something, and if it rested on some contingent being then that contingent being too would require some explanation of its existence. The ultimate explanation of the existence of all things, therefore, must be the existence of some necessary being. This necessary being is readily identified by proponents of the cosmological argument as God.

The argument from contingency, then, can be summarised as follows:

The Argument from Contingency

(1) Everything that exists contingently has a reason for its existence.
(2) The universe exists contingently.
Therefore:
(3) The universe has a reason for its existence.
(4) If the universe has a reason for its existence then that reason is God.
Therefore:
(5) God exists.

Nary a biblical quotation in the lot!

HTH

Charles