A tax question for anyone who is in law?

Question

If I am a State citizen how do the laws of Federal Income Tax apply to me.

Aren't those laws exclusive to the District of Columbia and to those businesses who sell Tobacco, Firearms and Alcohol only?

And as far as the forms sent to me every year telling me to pay based on the monitored earnings attached to my social security number, Internal Revenue Code, Section 6109(d), (I've added the emphasis):

"The SOCIAL SECURITY ACCOUNT NUMBER ISSUED to an individual for purposes of section 205(c)(2)(A) of the Social Security Act shall, except as otherwise be specified under regulations of the Secretary, be used as the identifying number for such individual for purposes of this title."

Search as much as you want, but you won't find an issued account number. Yet, this is what your tax law wants. Every April 15th, you swear a perjury oath to the federal god that you have a number that does not exist

Can someone help answer my question and address"account number"is it a private bank

I asked a simple question, no reason to get rude and nasty.

Can't anyone answer this question?

The facts are there but no law.

I just want a reasonable answer without being referred to title 26 and the non-ratified 16th amendment.

Since I am a State citizen and not a Federal citizen, those laws do not apply to me.

My Sovereignty is delegated from God - not controlled by DC federal offices.

America is waking up and there is nothing for them to do but try to destroy what was granted to us in the Constitution before their private banks lose their free annual meal ticket.

There is a storm coming - you can feel it!

FOR ROB

"The people, or sovereign are not bound by general words in statutes, restrictive of prerogative right, title or interest, unless expressly named. Acts of limitation do not bind the King or the people. The people have been ceded all the rights of the King, the former sovereign ... It is a maxim of the common law, that when an act is made for the common good and to prevent injury, the King shall be bound, though not named, but when a statute is general and prerogative right would be divested or taken from the King [or the people] he shall not be bound."

Even the very definition of "Liberty" means you cannot be regulated.

The federalists have been given exclusive jurisdiction over Washington DC. There are no sovereign rights in Washington DC

And they have no rights to tax a State citizen outside of DC!

Again

Search as much as you want, but you won't find an issued account number. Yet, this is what your tax law wants. Every April 15th, you swear a perjury oath to the federal god that you have a number that does not exist.
There is one last topic to consider. The word "enumerated" as used in the Social Security Act. The Social Security Administration has stated on their former web site:
"The process of issuing Social Security numbers is called "enumeration," and over the years it has been one of the most interesting topics involving Social Security."
Now, here is the legal definition of ENUMERATED: The term is often used in law as equivalent to "mentioned specifically," "designated" or "expressly named or granted;" as in speaking of enumerated government powers, ITEMS OF PROPERTY, or articles in a tariff schedule...

I pay my taxes, but very soon the Nation will know the truth!

How long can you let a Federal Government bully every citizen into giving up the fruits of their labors every year to a "Private Bank"!

Answer 1

GETTING OUT OF FED. INCOME TAXES IS NOT A VERY FUN THING TO DO.

IF YOUR IN A TEACHABLE STATE OF MIND AND LOVE THE PAINS OF FREEDOM.

UPDATE YOU DON'T GO TO JAIL IF THE IRS WINS ON THE CIVIL SIDE.

I AM NOT A CITIZEN OF THE U.S. BUT I AM A U.S.A NATIONAL.

I DO NOT RESIDE IN ANY STATE.

PLEASE READ.

http://www.outlawslegal.com/InvCont/incon.htm

Answer 2

Good point regarding the 14th Amendment. Also, the Sixteenth Amendment CLEARLY allows the federal government to "lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration." So, no, those laws are not exclusive to DC and ATF business.

Your second question is too inarticulate to comprehend. Try again and I will get back to you. Try asking it again, this time without the political rhetoric and proper punctuation.

Your semantic argument will not protect you from the federal government when they come after you. Sorry!

COMMENT

By the way, while your sovereignty might be delegated from God, it IS nonetheless controlled by DC federal offices. You see, it is this kind of logic problem that is precluding you from understanding why you have to pay federal income tax.

Also, the Supreme Court has repeatedly disregarded your absurd contention that the 16th amendment was never ratified. Even if you had a time machine (I bet you have one in the works, right?), it would not change the Supreme Court's ruling. Let me guess, the Supreme Court is a farce, too? Oh well. :(

Answer 3

Wow, just go ahead and believe other tax protestors. BTW, a few of us here actually showed you the law and you didn't believe it was law. Just because you don't think it is law, doesn't mean it isn't. The 16th amendment was ratified properly. That's a moot point anyway. Since it is already a part of the U.S. Constitution, it would take an act of Congress and ratification by 3/4 of the existing states to repeal it. As for Social Security Account Numbers, any reasonable person realizes that is your nine-digit Social Security number. In a 30 second search on the Social Security website, I found the Social Security number referenced as an account number 11 times. Since you already have your mind made up and aren't open to a true discussion, there is no reason to even try to convince you otherwise. You really should read the tax protestor FAQ. It debunks everything you posted.

http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html

Edit: CASE # 03-CR-20111 is US v. Kuglin and was a criminal proceeding. While the IRS did lose the CRIMINAL case against Kuglin, they were successful in the CIVIL case. Also, near the end of the transcripts of the Kuglin trial, there was some very interesting conversation between the court, the US attorney and the counsel for the defense.

In U.S. v. Kuglin, CR-03-20111, near the end of the transcripts, pg. 776,

THE COURT: So anything else from the United States?

MR. MURPHY (Federal lawyer): Just one thing, to put Ms. Kuglin on notice, she has got to pay taxes, I think the court
ought to instruct her that that is the law. She has got to file returns and --

MR. BECRAFT (Lawyer for defense): Your Honor, that is going to be cleaned up totally.

THE COURT: Okay. Well, Mr. Murphy is not incorrect that it is the law, and I think what he's also saying is there will still be civil penalties.

MR. BECRAFT: I expect probably 90-day letters to be coming pretty quick.

THE COURT: Okay.

MR. BECRAFT: And there's going to be civil proceedings, and she is going to being take responsibility -- she is going to be doing things to respond to all of that like file returns, Your Honor.


So, as anyone can plainly see, Kuglin was acquitted by a jury of her peers of "Willful failure to file", but that she still has to pay her income taxes. If I remember correctly, she had approximately $930,000 in income over a six year period and she ended up paying a little over $500,000 in taxes and penalties. It would have been cheaper for her to just pay her taxes in the first place.

The other case cited is US v. Long. I won't go into detail about this case, but the basic defense was he didn't file because he was stupid. In the end, while the jury acquitted him also of "willful failure to file", he still had to pay his taxes. He was also fined and penalized.

So, if anybody wants to believe the tax protestor arguments, go ahead. You will end up paying more in the long run. Also, while those two cases indicate the government doesn't have a perfect record in criminal cases, their record is almost perfect in civil cases. Besides, those are just two cases out of hundreds and most were convicted and served jail time.

Answer 4

Some individuals argue that they have rejected citizenship in the United States in favor of state citizenship; therefore, they are relieved of their federal income tax obligations. A variation of this argument is that a person is a free born citizen of a particular state and thus was never a citizen of the United States. The underlying theme of these arguments is the same: the person is not a United States citizen and is not subject to federal tax laws because only United States citizens are subject to these laws.




The Law: The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution defines the basis for United States citizenship, stating that “[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” The Fourteenth Amendment therefore establishes simultaneous state and federal citizenship. Claims that individuals are not citizens of the United States but are solely citizens of a sovereign state and not subject to federal taxation have been uniformly rejected by the courts

Scroll to section C at the following link.

http://www.irs.gov/taxpros/article/0,,id=159932,00.html#_Toc153765513

Answer 5

LMAO!! This clown is a certified Tax Kook who just cuts and pastes this meaningless rhetoric from various Tax Kook websites. He goes on one of these rants every few days.

He doesn't even have the sack to unhide his questions and answers or allow personal e-mail. That should tell you something about the kind of flake we're dealing with here.

Not worth my keystrokes any more, so I'll just leave him to rant. Do note that he does claim to pay his taxes. If so, at least he's not completely stupid. Credit where it's due, I suppose...

Answer 6

Yeah, okay, smart guy...We've all heard this before. There are even books written about how none of us owe income tax, that it's against our constitutional rights, blah, blah, blah...There's some loophole to get out of paying taxes, blah, blah, blah...If you want to tangle with the federal government go ahead and do so at your own peril. You'll have plenty of time to think about your question in prison....

Answer 7

Huuummm.Well kiss my kitty.Damned if you ain`t right.What we gonna do about it?