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I Peter 4:17

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

(Judgement must begin with the house of god the house of God is church.)

Matthew 24:15-16

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains.

(the abomination of desolation is satan, the holy place is church, the mountains are Jesus)

II Thessalonians

2:11

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

(this is why people are soo happy in church they are delusioned)

II Corinthians 11:14-15

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

2007-06-26 11:17:03 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

1.
Revelation Chapter 7, the Great Tribulation cannot begin until the complete fullness (144,000) of all those who are to be saved during the Church Age has been accomplished. (Remember, the number 144,000 is not to be understood literally but symbolically, being the product of 12 x 12 x 1,000. See Chapter 8 of this book for more on the numbers of the Bible.)

2.
I Peter 4:17, Christ will come to judge the house of God (the local churches).

3.
Matthew 24:21, there will be great tribulation such as the world has never known.

4.
Revelation 20:1-4, Satan will be loosed so that he can be used by God as a judgment in the local churches.

5.
Revelation 9:1-5, Christ as a star looses Satan.

6.
Revelation 13:1-7, the beast (Satan) comes out of the sea to make war with the saints and overcome them.

7.
Revelation 13:11, the beast (Satan) come out of the earth appearing as a lamb but speaking like a dragon.

2007-06-26 11:17:28 · update #1

8.
Revelation 13:1 and 17:12, Satan rules throughout the Great Tribulation time as a beast with crowns on its ten horns.

9.
Revelation 9:15, the four angels are loosed to slay the third part (those unbelievers who externally represent the kingdom of God) of men.

10.
Revelation 8:1, the Great Tribulation begins with a symbolic half hour during which Heaven is silent (nobody in the whole world will become saved).

11.
II Thessalonians 2:3-4, the man of sin (Satan) takes his seat (becomes the sole ruler) in the temple (the local congregations).

12.
Revelation 11:7, the two witnesses (the true believers) are killed (driven out of the local congregations).

2007-06-26 11:17:42 · update #2

13.
Revelation 11:2, the holy city (the true believers in the local congregations) are trodden underfoot.

14.
II Thessalonians 2:7, He (that is, the Holy Spirit) who restrains is taken out of the midst of each and every local congregation.

2007-06-26 11:18:17 · update #3

1st saint of God :

of course i make mistakes sometimes in my understanding but those things have i not misunderstood you see

Proverbs 12:1
Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof [is] brutish.

you are the one who hates reproof which means correction.

II Timothy 3:16

All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

you see only the Bible itself is profitable for reproof so of course when i misunderstand it is the Bible that reproves(corrects) me

also i notice u dont havea single bible verse in ur response so i guess those are ur words whilst i use Gods words

2007-06-26 11:37:24 · update #4

don s if you attend church your the one who picks and chooses scriptures to believe i consider the whole Bible

how can you reconcile these scriptures ?

John 3:15
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

ur church only uses that scripture but what about this one

Romans 9:15

...I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion

so which is the decider? God or u do u choose God or Does he select who will believe in him

what about

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Ephesians 2:8

not of yourselves why does he say that?? i guess u can keep goin to church if u wanna disregard or misinterpet what he is saying.

2007-06-26 11:45:39 · update #5

nyck of time/ 1st saint

well i guess you didnt quite understand what you were reading, look back just a little bit

Hebrews 10:21
And having an high priest over the house of God;

ok u see the house of God right

now
Hebrews 10:25
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

you see he means true believers should exhort one another yes but he doesnt ever say forever in the house of God because what he does say is

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God (the local churches) : and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 1 Peter 4:17

so u see your just misunderstanding what God is saying of course we should assemble forever true believers that is but not inside the house of God.

2007-06-26 11:55:11 · update #6

7 answers

Life is short,your question is to long.

2007-06-26 11:21:28 · answer #1 · answered by Robert S 5 · 0 0

Nice try, but there are so many flaws and holes in your theory that I don't even know where to begin.

Besides, the whole purpose of being Catholic is to avoid God's wrath by joining our life's sacrifices with Christ's, as a constant, living, and loving propitiation to God.

We have God's word that he will accept our offerings when they are joined with his divine son's in this way, and coupled with his grace, through his Church, it is more than sufficient.

As for your interpretation of Revelation ... please get in line. There have been thousands before you and there will be thousands after, and nobody has yet managed to get even close.

God only knows, and only God will reveal his secrets, at the proper time.

Until then, all we can do is watch, pray, and keep the faith.

2007-06-26 19:31:14 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Nope.

Hebrews 10

24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some [is]; but exhorting [one another]: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

2007-06-26 18:38:25 · answer #3 · answered by NickofTyme 6 · 1 0

This is not true. For we are not to forsake the assembling of ourselves as some do. The saints are not under God's wrath but under His blessings. You love Revelation don't you? Has it occurred to you that your understanding of what you have posted is in error?

2007-06-26 18:20:22 · answer #4 · answered by 1saintofGod 6 · 2 0

You know Satan did the same thing with scripture when tempting Jesus. He told Him to throw Himself down off of the pinnacle, "For it is written, He shall give His angels charge over thee to keep thee:" Luke 4:10.

... but what he left off was, "in all thy ways." Psalms 91:11

Anyone can take scripture out of context and make it into whatever they want it to be. Example: "Judas Iscariot went out and hung himself"..........."Go thou likewise and do the same." And of course, your example is another.

2007-06-26 18:29:57 · answer #5 · answered by don_steele54 6 · 0 0

Ya...um...what? Your statement doesn't make any sense, you just put random Bible passages down to make it seem like you have a point.

2007-06-26 18:25:15 · answer #6 · answered by papadego 3 · 0 0

Showing once again that with enough eisegesis, one can "prove" just about anything one wants.

2007-06-26 18:31:12 · answer #7 · answered by Deof Movestofca 7 · 0 0

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