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Don't cite me from some new money making feel good version bible. I want it cited from the good old King James Version of 1611.

Aren't you adding words to the bible by using the word "trinity"?

2007-06-26 10:32:31 · 16 answers · asked by ? 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The word itself is not in the bible. The concept is there. Whether you want to believe it or not is up to you.

2007-06-26 10:36:26 · answer #1 · answered by Mr. E 7 · 2 0

The word "trinity" isn't in the KJV Bible. The concept would better be called a triunity (from three, one). The Bible has two seemingly incompatible principles. One one hand, the Bible is abundantly clear that there is only one God. On the other hand, the Bible is adamant that Jesus and the Father aren't the same person. To solve this paradox, early Christians invented the idea of the trinity: three Beings forming a single God.

2007-06-26 10:57:20 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Pedderin M hit it on the head. The concept of a trinity stems from Babylonian times and was introduced into Christian teachings.

The Council of Nicaea in 325 C.E established that Jesus was of the same substance as God (the father), later, Emperor Theodosius established the creed of the Council of Nicaea as the standard during the Council of Constantinople in 381 C.E and this was the birth of the trinity in Christian teachings.

There are plenty of scriptures that support the fact that Jesus was subordinate to God - I won't bother quoting any here - but there are none that support a trinity or suggest that Jesus and God are equal.

As to the fact of the holy spirit - the holy spirit is a force not a person. A lot of Bible translations personify the holy spirit when they shouldn't. For a full answer by someone far more qualified to offer an opinon on such matters I would suggest a read of "Truth in Translation" by Jason BeDuhn.

Oh, and for our Mormon friend citing "the book of mormon" as a reliable source take a look at Matthew 15:8. As 2 Timothy 3:16,17 states, the Bible is more than sufficient on its own to be completely equipt ;).

2007-06-26 11:07:13 · answer #3 · answered by Grip Savage 2 · 0 1

The word "trinity" is not in the Bible. But neither is the concept. According to the Catholic Athanasian Creed: "So there is One Father, not Three Fathers; one Son, not Three Sons; One Holy Ghost, not Three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another, but the whole Three Persons are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal."

I can't cite scriptures from the KJB to in support of the trinity because there are none. There is not one verse in the Bible that says that God is made up of 3 coequal, co-eternal persons. NOT ONE!

The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.


Good_Air above and others say:"The word itself is not in the bible. The concept is there. Whether you want to believe it or not is up to you." I noticed he didn't use one scripture to support his claim. Trinitarians say that the Bible “implies” a Trinity. But this claim is made long after the Bible was written. It is an attempt to read into the Bible what clergymen of later times arbitrarily decided should be doctrine.

Ask yourself: Why would the Bible only “imply” its most important teaching—who God is? The Bible is clear on other basic teachings; why not on this, the most important one? Would not the Creator of the universe author a book that was clear on his being a Trinity if that were the case?

The reason the Bible does not clearly teach the Trinity doctrine is simple: It is not a Bible teaching. Had God been a Trinity, he would surely have made it clear so that Jesus and his disciples could have taught it to others. And that vital information would have been included in God’s inspired Word. It would not have been left to imperfect men to struggle with centuries later.


The trinity is a man-made falsehood.

2007-06-26 10:38:00 · answer #4 · answered by ? 1 · 1 1

You can find a lot of individual verses or verses together that mention Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, and God the Father.

eg:
Ephesians 4:4-6 For there is one body [the Church] and one Spirit [the Holy Spirit] ..., one Lord [Messiah Jesus], one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all [God the Father], who is over all and through all and in all [members of the Church].

Also its clear in various verses scattered across the gospels and epistles that all are God, and really act together in fact.

The doctine thus just was a formulation of an inherent biblical reality, which was defined when heretical and verbally impressive leaders (Arius in particular I think) we're misleading the ordinary lay folk of the Church, and it was felt that the position of the Church should be defined.

There are many aspects of spiritual reality like this - the bible often doesn't spoonfeed its readers, one has to think things through. E.g. if you investigate the atonement, i.e. Jesus sacrifice on the cross for us, you will find it achieved a lot more than forgiveness.

2007-06-26 11:28:45 · answer #5 · answered by Cader and Glyder scrambler 7 · 0 0

The word "Trinity does not appear in the Bible. We use the word to simply state the "three-ness" of one God. There are lots of words not found in the Bible. Lutheran, revival, fundamentalism, etc..

At no time has any Catholic Bible been published with this word added to the text of the Gospels.

2007-06-26 10:41:36 · answer #6 · answered by Via_Crucis 2 · 0 0

Trinity is just a word, like any other word that is used to describe something. It means three.

It is not in the Bible, but is used to describe 3..such as Father, son & holy ghost.

2007-06-26 10:44:52 · answer #7 · answered by jitterbug 4 · 0 0

Cite one verse in the Bible where it says the word "Bible".

2007-06-26 11:04:13 · answer #8 · answered by PaulCyp 7 · 1 0

Pedderin summed it up perfectly. The trinity is simply a way to adapt christianity to the polytheistic religions of the region. It

2007-06-26 10:54:44 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You can't because it isn't there. The word "trinity" was made up by a group of men who couldn't get people to stop killing each other over Christianity. It was written in the Nicean Creed. Which is a document written by men, not of God.
Not all Christians refer to the God Head as a trinity.
Thanks for not grouping us all together.
A KJV reader - :)

2007-06-26 10:38:39 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Mt 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Father, Son, Spirit

Ga 4:6 And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, "Abba, Father!"

Father, Son, Spirit

2007-06-26 10:57:42 · answer #11 · answered by Steve Amato 6 · 1 0

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