so christians who think gay is a choice, do you have any desire to be "intimate" with someone of the same sex

Question

if not, then you're straight. gay people don't have any desire to be intimate with people of the opposite sex.

it's not something you can choose. it's like some people like very large women and some are repulsed by them. some people like very thin people while others are repulsed by them.

so do you have desire to be intimate with the same gender? and how do you fight it? or do you understand the point i'm trying to make?

loathing - i agree that some people choose to be straight or gay

lildebunker - umm read it again, the question is clearly stated, twice

Answer 1

That is something I have struggled with for years. To give a good answer would take more time than I have now. However, to sum it up I am not sure if is a choice or not, but it is a choice how I deal with it. The closer I become to God, the lesser my attractions for the same sex become. I may never have a strong physical desire for the opposite sex, but my desire for "intimacy" with the opposite sex does grow stronger.

Answer 2

I typed out a long answer to a similar question earlier today...lol...the upshot was that it's only necessary to prohibit something if people really want to do it. We don't need to specifically prohibit people from slicing at their eyes with razors, even though the practice, if generally taken up, would surely work to the detriment of society!

So the prohibition on gay sex itself speaks to the fact that homosexuality is a common impulse.

Of course, while it may be true that everybody is essentially bisexual, most people have very strong preferences one way or the other - whether "natural" or "nurtured" makes no difference. Most "straight" people have no conscious desire for the same gender, just as most "gay" people have no conscious desire for the opposite.

The "straight" people who are extremely concerned with the "issue" of homosexuality, though, are more than likely reacting against their own personal sexual ambivalence. This has been demonstrated over and over again. They only tend to conceal their fascination/bigotry in "religious" terms because religion is irrational, and suits their irrational attitude. It's "convenient" to pretend to hate gay people on religious grounds.

P.S. - "Loathing" - I agree with you that even IF it's a "choice," there's absolutely no (rational) reason why a given person making that choice should upset others. This IS America, and we all DO (or should) have the freedom to pursue happiness as we see fit.

And "Paul V" - yeah, I get your "point," and the difference, obviously, you clod, is that homosexuality, if a crime, is victimless! I know you'd like to compare it with murder, lying, theft, and the rest; but that just makes you an irrational fanatic, possibly for the reasons above indicated. (Admit it, you want to sleep with TJ.)

Answer 3

If you have the desire to be with the same gender than you have either been conditioned by the environment you grew up around, or you have experimented with other gender and for some strange reason you felt this was for you. It was a choice you made and you were not born that way. The way I see it is that you are born inocent and not knowing of sexual intercourse or attraciton and as you grow up and given your environment and life experiences you choose what type of sexual orientation you wish to be.

Answer 4

Let's make a distinction between the desire and acting upon the desire.

It does not matter whom you desire. You are free to desire and crave relationships with anybody you please. You can desire whatever gender turns you on.

There is no sin involved in the desire.

Now, if you take it to the next level, and actually have relations with someone, you have made a choice to do so. Note that we are not talking about any sort of forced activity, here.

If your choice leads you to have relations with someone you are not bound to by a covenant marriage, you have sinned. Period.

Again, whatever gender you may be, and whatever gender the other participant may be is not part of the description of the sin.

The bible does note, however, that God is particularly disappointed in people who commit sexual sins with members of the same gender.

Answer 5

I don't think it's as cut and dry as some people would like to make it. Let's imagine for a minute that you're in a very heated argument with someone. You've lost your temper to the extreme. Everyone has a choice to make. You can haul off and kill that person, thus ending the problem. Or, you can walk away. Most of us, would never think of killing someone we're mad at. Those that do, might say that since they do have those thoughts they must be born with it and it must not be wrong. That's not the answer. My point is, we all feel things at times that's not right. Anger, lust, envy, hate, just to name a few. It's up to us to redirect those thoughts and not let them lead us to sin.

Answer 6

It will be very difficult but I think I can make the sacrifice to prove to all Christians that being gay is a choice! But his means he has to be REALLY cute and very openminded. I'm ready.

Answer 7

That's what I'd like to know?
If they picture themselves in the warm, firm embrace of a hairy, muscular construction worker, how do they make the choice that instead they want Pamela Anderson?
Do they have to make that choice every day? Every week?
Are all people like that, or just some?

Answer 8

first off, im not christian and i have NO problems with **** or bisexuals.
and i REALLY believe that for SOME people it is a choice. and i dont understand how me believing that puts me in the right wing....
i think people also chose to be straight, and i just simply dont get how its wrong for people to CHOSE what they want... i mean dont we have that right as Americans and as people?

yes i chose to be straight... i am in a heterosexual monogamous relationship... and im happy here.. at one point in my life i might have chosen a different lifestyle, but thats just it i CHOSE....
no one has the right to take away your choice.....

and for those who have no choice, then thats just fine too...

Answer 9

I was born heterosexual. I have never been with a woman. I can appreciate a beautiful woman, of course. But sexually, I like men.

Answer 10

FYI - some feminists think being with women is a choice.