they denied him filming rights in Germany on the basis that Scientology is a cult not a religion ... well what do you think... ?
I think this a very serious matter, indeed...
Will we again burn books because we disagree with the content ? Third Reich has done that...
thank you for your answers...
please disregard any answers form Ultrastooge, he is currently delusional and receiving the Penfold treatment... he will be lucid once they recover his brain... may take months...
(I can see J. Revolta flying his Spirit of Xenu 707 and bombing Berlin with thetans)... before you abuse me verbally, the statement above was a poor joke... forgive me, I could not resist...
2007-06-26 08:16:19 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
marc, you made laugh...
say you would not have Nicole's phone number... ? naaahhh
Penguin... Chuck Norris' tears a are a guaranteed cure for cancer, too bad he never cries...
My atheist buddy, you spoke your mind, thank you...
2007-06-26 08:22:19 · update #1
Ryan, Hitler was an occultist (which actually was a dark branch of christianity) even if oyu dislike Scientologists, you can not compare the two...(before you think anyhing, I am a Buddhist)
2007-06-26 08:25:09 · update #2
Max, thank you kindly for your input, but J. Revolta has just been detected on radar in Spirit of Xenu, I am afraid he has neutralized all the canned goods being thrown by Germans using the control of MEST (matter energy space and time, at his disposal since he has attained a high level in the church)
come on guys and girls... seriously now !!!
2007-06-26 08:29:49 · update #3
Ryan, buddy, I lost most of my family to Hitler's henchmen... and I not jewish... he was the one who instituted the church tax (1% of income) in force till today in Germany and Austria... while the symbolism was occultist (the SS symbol and runic alphabet), he (unfortunately) used church and potrayed himself as *christian*.
I am afraid I was researching this for about 40 years... the evidence is indisputable... if you want to continue the discussion e-mail me... we can chew fat on this one for weeks sci.seek@hotmail.com
2007-06-26 08:37:37 · update #4
whoa!!! skipper, you are assuming I do not read any books... hmmm... are you willing to bet who read more, you or me... ??? also you did not answer the church tax thing... sparky, no need to get offensive, and do not be insulting, no need for that... (BTW, I speak and read in 5 languages, howzz about you?)
I do speak and write fluent LAtin, so no need to explain where the word occult came from... as for your arrogance... res ipsa loquitur...
2007-06-26 08:50:53 · update #5
Ryan, I see I made a mistake to engage you, I guess Wiki and Google is the highest source of knowledge for you, I took you seriously for a second, my bad, you putz !!!... now hop along, sparky... and read some books... also, in case your superior intellect did not detect this, I was not insulting you or making assumptions about you, I will now... try to be kinder next time, I sense fear in you...
2007-06-26 09:02:56 · update #6
Are you more interested in the answers you're getting, instead of reading your question perhaps again.
You state:
were the Germans correct in preventing Tom Cruise from filming ?
they denied him filming rights in Germany on the basis that Scientology is a cult not a religion
Nobody prevented Tom Cruise from filming in Germany, with one exception "The Bendlerblock" the actual scene of Staufenberg's attempt to assassinate the madman Hitler.
As one should try to understand there are places in any Nation taboo for entertainment a'la Hollywood and to add the *Scientology *Religion*, as there are many of us who could care less about any fairytale vs hard facts, therefore making the decision that easy. The rest of your dribble is just nonsense as your question is to begin with.
2007-06-26 10:41:09 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Oh please, read the news properly. He is not denied filming rights in Germany in general, just on military sites and that because they don't want him to portray Stauffenberg who tried to assasinate Hitler and is therefore considered one of the very few heroes of Germany during the Nazi era. The legal situation in Germany would never make it possible to deny anyone from playing in a film in Germany because of his religion, but the military has a right to decide who they let on their bases. The Bendlerblock where they want to film is now the seat of the German Defense Ministry. It's the same in America, not everyone can enter military sites and even the Defense Ministry as he wishes and for whatever purpose he wishes.
Personally I think it's silly, they should allow him to film.
And movies with Tom Cruise are shown in Germany, this is the first time that I hear it's an issue that he's a Scientologist. That's really just because Stauffenberg is such an important person. If it was just an entertainment movie it would never be an issue.
2007-06-26 09:50:26 · answer #2 · answered by Elly 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes because Germany had a bad experience with a cult about 60 or 70 years ago.
Sorry tomtom. Do some research. Hitler used cults and religious symbolism from many different sources to get people to follow Nazism. You might be able to find Christian elements in the Nazi cult, but it was definitely NOT "Christianity" by any stretch of the word. Again, do some research, you'll find many cults that have Christian undertones but are definitely not Christian.
Humor me and read this: "Occultism is the study of occult or hidden wisdom. To the occultist it is the study of "Truth", a deeper truth that exists beneath the surface: 'The truth is always hidden in plain sight'. It can involve such subjects as magic (alternatively spelled and defined as magick), extra-sensory perception, astrology, spiritualism, numerology and lucid dreaming. There is often a strong religious element to these studies and beliefs, and many occultists profess adherence to religions such as Christianity, Judaism, Paganism, Hinduism, Buddhism."
Also read this: "Most often when using the term cult, Watchman Fellowship is referring to groups that claim to be Christian or compatible with Christianity, but when their theology and practices are examined, they are found to be contrary to the essential doctrines of the Christian faith.
Frequently cults will exploit their followers through the abuse of religious authority, forms of mind control, or psychological abuse, often in the name of Christ.
Occult organizations, however, seldom claim to be Christian churches. Occult practices are less frequently billed as compatible with Christianity (although there are exceptions).
The term "occult" is derived from the latin word occultus which means to cover up, to hide, or those things which are hidden or secret. When used in this paper the word "occult" means any attempt to gain supernatural knowledge or power apart from the God of the Bible."
So as you can see tomtom, you can call something "Christianity" all you want but it doesn't necessarily make it Christian. Just like you can call a Toad a prince all you want, it isn't one until a princess kisses it. There's a reason why they call Nazism an "occult" or a "cult" and not Christianity. Maybe you should meditate about that.
2007-06-26 08:20:01 · answer #3 · answered by The Interrupter 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋
The US State Department's has repeatedly reported on Germany for government and societal discrimination against minority religious groups and Scientology.
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2005/51554.htm
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71382.htm
On June 2000, the U.S. House of Representatives held hearings concerning Germany's discrimination against American Products based on religion.
http://www.cesnur.org/testi/EUintolerance_03.htm
Most notable was Germany's boycott of Windows 2000 because a defrag program used by Windows was developed by an American company whose CEO is a Scientologist.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9701/30/scientologists/index.html
On Nov 2000, a German official was arrested in Switzerland and given a 30 day suspended jail sentence for spying on Scientology. The German government apologized to Switzerland for the incident.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/11/03/ms_helps_you_hack_scientology/
Wasn't Germany responsable for the holocoust?
2007-06-26 14:09:23 · answer #4 · answered by bravehartbears 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I don't think they were right. I have no use for Tom Cruise, and am absolutely not a Scientologist, but to bar someone from filming rights due to their religious affiliation constitutes discrimination. The man has the right to practice any religious belief he likes. Who, or what, will be banned next?
2007-06-26 08:22:54 · answer #5 · answered by solarius 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You can't legally prevent someone from being a complete idiot like a scientologist so I think Germany was wrong even though I agree that Tom Cruise should be shunned for being such a moron.
2007-06-26 08:20:28 · answer #6 · answered by Scheidemann 2 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Yes,they are within their rights to possibly prevent a delusional cult from spreading into their country,like a virus.
This just in:Thetans have surrounded Berlin.The people are throwing rocks and cans of tomato sauce at the brazen invaders.
2007-06-26 08:23:54 · answer #7 · answered by Max 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Chuck Norris invented the color black. In fact, Chuck Norris invented all of the colors on the spectrum.
Except pink... Tom Cruise invented pink.
2007-06-26 08:18:17 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
I really dislkike cruise and all that cult bidness!!! but it really doesnt matter what someones religion is no matter how CRAZY is it.cristians.I dont think germans should of done ****.
2007-06-26 08:21:49 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Their idiots , if it was paris hilton filming a topless scene in germany , and she was a scientology freak they wouldnt care. Its just Tom , cuz hes got a bad rap ! Beside germany is just pissed cuz they suck
2007-06-26 08:19:58 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋