Listening to Atheists, you'd think we live in a theocracy!?

Question

You guys say that Christians rule everything and shove our laws down your throats.
Last time I checked, evolution is still taught in school. That's your belief system and if we had our way, it wouldn't be taught as fact.
Gay rights: again, last time I checked, majority rule and if people (christians or not) were to decide they were okay with gays marrying, it would be done ( like that ultra liberal Massachussets).
Abortion: still legal...if we ruled, it wouldn't be.
Now tell me again, how are YOU not getting your voice heard?
Count your blessings you're not living in Saudi Arabia.

Answer 1

"Majority rules" is a myth. There are checks and balances to protect people from the tyranny of the majority. This is why you have courts and a Bill of Rights.

Take gay marriage. No majority should be able to take that away from two people who are committed to each other. Their being married is their business and it doesn't hurt anyone.

Answer 2

LabGrrl, Bush's "Texan" accent (he sounds like NO ONE I know here, especially in Houston) does offend. It offends in that it reinforces the negative stereotypes about the rest of us in Texas. I find it sad every time someone assumes I speak with an exaggerated drawl or (worse) assumes I am dumb, just because of where I live.



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We want to prevent a theocracy.


Creationism: You're simply out of luck there. Creationists have been so completely discredited that you could only get your ideas (not theories, by the way) taught in schools if you cheated, and it has almost happened a couple of times.

Abortion: Too bad (for you) that the law overrides your religious beliefs.

Gay marriage: Who are you to tell people what they can and cannot do? That there were still sodomy laws on the books in most states until a couple of years ago is disgraceful, even if they were rarely enforced.


But you miss the fact that atheists are still marginalized. You can't win an election on any level (especially higher levels) in this country if you are open about your atheism.

People are regularly fired (I read about a recent case with a schoolteacher at a public school) for not being Christian. It's disgraceful.


Christians are the majority, and they get to be considered 'normal.' The rest of us have to be the 'others' of society.


But yes, I am glad not to live in Saudi Arabia. If the U.S. ever becomes like that, I'm moving to Asia for good.

Answer 3

a mundane state. A theocracy may well be poor, there may well be scuffling with over which faith is in skill. An atheist state might ban freedom of religion, some thing i do no longer consider (an i'm an agnostic atheist). a mundane state may well be wonderful, like now we've. the only project is the countless communities thinking they could get particular treatment.

Answer 4

I don't know who said that. Perhaps I missed something in here. I sure hope you are right about evolution being taught in schools. But if it is, it is still being taught as the Theory of Evolution, just like religion is a theory.
Massachusetts is really not an "ultra liberal" state. Actually it is a place where people are intelligent, educated and most of them believe in using their brain to think things out, which is why god gave it to them. After all, most of the nations top universities is in or around Boston.
Yes, abortion is still legal. Let's hope it continues to remain so. After all, a fetus is part of a woman's body and therefore only she should have the right to decide what she wants to do with it.

Answer 5

If we live in a theocracy why did all the sex laws (fornication, etc) vanish, why was homosexuality decriminalized, why is no fault divorce everywhere, why is gambling everywhere now, why is abortion legal, why cohabitation allowed and WHY HIS HOMESCHOOLING SO WIDELY OPPOSED. Why in a country of 80% Christians are there laws against PRAYER in school at at sporting events in schools.

Whose side, rights and issues are being addressed here!

Looks to me like the MAJORITY is getting pushed around by the MINORITY.

Doesn't that make this a SECULAR nation!

Answer 6

Well there is still a big fight over gay-marriage in MA because of the Christian Right who is clueless about the laws of land because they want bible installed as the end all be all of law.
US Supreme Court has already ruled that basic rights cannot be voted on and our country was never setup where majority rules in cases of basic rights...we have democratic majority vote but there are protections to keep majority from oppressing minority

please learn about America...very tired of this "Majority rules" when America was NEVER setup as a pure democracy where minority has no rights...I mean why do you think there is a Senate? to offset the large states advantage in HoR.

cmw> you can have all the equal time you want...in religion and philosophy class. We don't teach german in math class, we don't teach math in English and we teach science in science class.....not writing or reading...science. So why should we make exception for religion if the ideas have no valid science behind them. Get a good religious doctrine that is scientifically valid and we can talk about that in science class.

Answer 7

It appears so because theocrats are organised but divided into many groups.They cannot have their own way everywhere.Even among the believers there will not be 100% believers there is always a component of disbelief in them.They are simply followers of theocrats rather than believers.
When it comes to governance and framing of rules more of brains than heart is the deciding factor.So atheism still rules.
Hope you will accept that atheists are ruled more by the brain as the believers by the heart.

Answer 8

But see, when it comes to science, we have proof. You don't have hard evidence that God created all that existed. We have proof of evolution.

And abortion? My goodness! Any women has the right to decide what she does with HER body.

And homosexuals are usually BORN that way. We have proof of that. It has to do with sex genes, too much testosterone, etc. Nobody chooses that. Who would want to be ridiculed, harassed, and ashamed by people like YOU. So, did your flawless god make a mistake?

I believe the Bible is one big rule book written by a group of sexist men. I think they wrote it, mentioned Hell and Heaven, to try and maintain order.

We get our voice heard, because of SCIENCE and HUMAN RIGHTS.

And you don't have the right to speak for all Christians, like they all want the same thing.

Answer 9

Right on. And for the record, I'm a Christian and don't think we should live in a theocracy. If anything, all Christian influence is being erradicated from society creating many of the problems we are experiencing today.

Answer 10

People who say they are Christians make up more than 75% of the population. It does make you wonder why we can't get equal time in the classroom, why it's hate speech to bash a gay, but not a Christian, etcetera (your good examples).

Since studies (which are unreliable) show that Christians register to vote more than atheists, you've got to scratch your head on this one.

In Canada, with a much lower percent of religious population, you may be imprisoned for saying that homosexuality is a sin. Now that is scary!

Edit: I love the "love it or leave it" response. What happened to free speech?

Answer 11

Stem cell research, gay marriage rights. These are two major things in which religion impedes progress. Stem cell research is one of the most promising medical advancements in our history and it receives no government funding primarily because of Christian belief that the group of 150 cells is equal to the life of an 8 year old girl dying of cancer. Also, denying gays marriage is no more a violation of civil rights than the discrimination against blacks before the civil rights movement in the 60's.