I'm sorry, how can anyone take Atheism seriously?

Question

All so-called "Atheists" want to do is eliminate freedom of speech, and freedom of religion, and make their little warped society that of the world.

You people have no business here.

Answer 1

Doesn't the fact that you have to lie so much to defend your beliefs tell you something about the quality of those beliefs? It should.

Answer 2

Say what? You actually don't know any Atheists, do you?

Did Abe Lincoln only set about ending slavery in America because he was having trouble stiffling freedom of speech?

What was Einstien's take on the whole subject?

Do some research before you accuse Atheists of being the downfall of society. Who knows? Maybe you'll stumble on such topics as:

1)Stem cell research: Held back by religious followers. Too bad several millions of lives and hundreds of diseases are at stake here. Since you won't bother researching this anyway, I'll have you know that the embryos in question are discarded from fertility clinics, and are now destined to rot in landfills rather than *gasp!* benifit human lives. Of course, you've probably stopped reading already and are heading for the "thumbs-down" area.

2) Teaching the theory of evolution in schools: Aren't schools supposed to teach children how to think? How to build up bodies of evidence and form conclusions? Nope! Again, thanks to religion, schools are in a constant battle over whether or not to become Christian recuiting stations! Gee, thanks, guys.

3) Inserting the word "God" anywhere it'll fit: America was never founded as a theocrisy. In fact, some rather wise men did the rather wise thing when they constructed and wrote the American Constitution. In this apparently over-rated document, it guarantees any American citizen the freedom to worship (or NOT worship) as they choose. So tell me how it's fair that a child who worships ALLAH has to say, "One nation under God" every morning at school. That's YOU guys at work again, adding the words, "under God" in the 1950s against the will of the families of the original Pledge's author. And we won't even get into currentcy, which has "In God we trust" printed on it.

4) Inserting influence into lawmaking: Why can't homosexuals marry in some states? Time's up--it was the Too God Crew at it again! Buying alcohol on Sundays in some areas... also Godded to death.

I guess I have to bow to YOU when it comes to living in a "little warped society." You and your kind sure do plenty of warping!

And that's why we're here.

Answer 3

Actually, it's best not to lump all people who do not believe in Jesus into one group of people you call "Atheists" and then tell the majority of the world that none of us should be taken seriously. Brings serious questions to mind about your own state of respect for "freedom of speech and freedom of religion".

Oh, I don't mind that you think I'm going to Hell. People that do don't understand freedom of religion. I don't have the right to tell you you can't believe that. I also don't like it when you (assuming you meant what you said in another post) report people just because they have different views from yours (I have trouble believing that someone who claims to want these things would do that).

I see the atheists you speak of. Fortunately, they are a minority, not just of our country, but of atheists as a whole. They do not respect freedom of speech, or freedom of religion.

I'm glad you do, is that correct? Always nice to meet a fellow patriot.

I do have to disagree with you, on the very basis of your post as reason: They do have business here. It is a free forum (thank you, Yahoo!) and they have free speech, as well as the freedom (assuming they follow Yahoo! rules in order to borrow their 'soapbox') to share their beliefs as well with regard to religion.

They have free speech, but so do they. Answer them.

Answer 4

I disagree. Some atheists (and so-called atheists) are here to stir up trouble. Some in the real world are as closed-minded as they claim religious people to be. But not all of them are like that.

While I am FAR from an atheist, I can almost understand how a person could be one. Just as I cannot comprend any possible way that God cannot exist in some form or another, true atheists cannot comprend any way that God could exist.

Answer 5

"All Atheists want to do is eliminate freedom of speech, so get lost, Atheists!"

Yeah, that made sense.

Look, I have Christian friends. And a Jewish friend. And a Buddhist friend. I am fine with their religion so long as they don't force it on me, thus infringing my freedoms.

Your people demand atheism be silenced. They demand that everyone believe what they believe.

All I have to do to prove you wrong is say one name: Falwell.

Answer 6

I suppose that you think that the entire country should be made up of Xians only?

Then you complain about atheist eliminating freedom of speech and then say that we have no business here?

can you say hypocrite ??

Answer 7

Most Christians mean well when they defend their faith. But, too often, many make fundamental errors when dialoguing with atheists. We need to make as few errors as possible, not simply to win an argument, but to help the atheist come to a saving relationship with the Lord Jesus.


Following are common mistakes made by theists when dialoguing with atheists.

Labeling Atheists
Some Christians have labeled atheists as evil, stupid, devil-worshippers, or morally void. Though there may be some atheists who fit these categories (as would many in the general population), atheists are not categorically evil, stupid, devil-worshipping degenerates with no morals. Many of them are fine citizens, honest, caring, loving, and patient. For a Christian, or anyone for that matter, to make a blanket statement about atheists in a derogatory manner is wrong. It is the same thing atheists sometimes do when they accuse Christians of being irrational, psychotic, or stupid. Such accusations have no place on either side of the argument of truth.

Generally speaking, atheists are not stupid. Many of them have thought through their position over a long period of time and arrive at conclusions after much thought. Some were raised in religious homes, have seen what religion has to offer, and have rejected it. Of course, I think that atheists have drawn incorrect conclusions about God, but it doesn't mean they are dumb. Some atheists have presented very cogent arguments against the existence of God, which need to be addressed.

So, just because someone believes in God and encounters someone who doesn't, that does not mean that either side is stupid. Labeling and name-calling have no place in the discussion.

Ignoring Atheists' Questions
If you were standing on a railroad track and a train was heading your way, closing your eyes and ignoring the locomotive will not make it go away. If an atheist asks a question and you ignore it repeatedly, it would be fair for him to conclude you were incapable of answering the objection. Of course, this does not mean you have to always answer everything, because dialogue flows both ways. But it is important that you face issues. If you don't have an answer, admit it. That's okay. It doesn't mean you are wrong. It means you don't have an answer. Go study and get an answer and get back to him.
Stating that Atheism is a religion
Atheists will repeatedly tell you that they are not in a religion. A religion almost always is defined to include belief in a deity of some sort. Atheism is non-belief in a deity. It isn't necessarily a "belief that there is no God" (though it can be), but is "not believing either way."

To label an atheist as a religious person is to put up a roadblock to effective communication. It would be like someone saying to a Christian, "You believe in a mean, tyrannical being who likes to torture people." The Christian would simply role his eyes and think that the person doesn't know what he's talking about. So, how much effective conversation could there be in either instance? Not much.

Stating unsupportable facts
No one has all the documentation for everything he says. It is not reasonable to require proof from an atheist on everything said. Nevertheless, if you are going to state a fact or two, it is good to have the documentation at the tip of your tongue -- at least occasionally, of having access to it. It adds to your credibility. Of course, you don't have to document everything, but if you have some illustrious fact to use, try and have it documented.
Never admitting when you are wrong
Pride is a harmful thing. It caused the Fall. It ruins marriages. It leads to anger and self-righteousness. It has no place in the Christian's life. Never admitting you are wrong is being prideful. If an atheist, or anyone, proves you wrong in something, be kind and courteous. Admit you made a mistake and go on. Everyone makes mistakes, even atheists. There is nothing wrong with admitting an error. It no more proves you are wrong about Christianity than being wrong about the color of a boat means boats don't exist. But if you never admit when you are wrong, you will not be able to convince anyone in a discussion of your position. You will simply lose the respect of the one with whom you are debating.

Answer 8

So the other day, when I was attempting to eliminate freedoms of speech and religion, I stepped on ten puppies and flung a baby into the street. Later on I drank the blood of a virgin and slaughtered some lambs in my basement. Whooo, I need a nap.

Answer 9

So what your saying is that freedom of speech and religion is only equal to whatever speech and religion you endorse. Well, how very humble, loving and nonjudgmental of you!lol
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And I said I'd wait til 12 to drink! Oh well!

Answer 10

This atheist is fine with freedom of speech and freedom of religion. I don't know any who aren't.

Answer 11

How democratic of you my friend!;)....Do you really think your attitude promotes freedom of speech and thought?:))))))...Live and let live, tolerance should be a basic principle of your Faith as far as I know, shouldn't it?:)))) An advice: start acting like your religion preaches;)