have you read bj jeff gordon's quote? this will determine who is calling the shots?

Question

" I think the punishment on Friday fit the crime. I think anymore than that will be extremely disappointing, and really kind of a jaw dropper." so there you have it nascar fans, I was right in my teasing about bj jeff g wearing kneepads, but he said it himself. your thoughts please

I also want to add something many have not mentioned.. In January nascar told all the teams at a traing session, not to tamper with the cot at all. why hasn't anybodyelse been found tampering? because they know better. you have to understand the concept of the cot, and everyone does, it 's that knaus pushes too hard. and letarte follows..

The point in my question is politics in nascar. I know jg did well. that is ok.. I also know that the 100/100 6 penalty will not affect either one of them.. I am saying this as a joke that now has some degree of merit, cuz jg said it.

Answer 1

there's going to be alot of jaw dropping soon between Gordon and Johnson after the announce the penalties.

Answer 2

This is retarded. Seriously.. All the teams push the rules so that is not a true statement. All the teams push the rules and other cars have been caught tampering. Like the #8. He got the penalty. The fender is a gray area. I love Jeff Gordon, and I know that they would never do anything intentional. Well at least with the car, and try to intentionally mess with the COT just because they can. They want to make the car better. That's what every team wants. To beat the other drivers and their teams are working hard trying to figure out a way to beat you so you have to try and find new things on the car to stay ahead of the curve and be competitive. I agree with him. I think that when Jr. had his malfunction that they let him qualify and practice and then fined him, so how is it that they didnt do the same here? I mean seriously they should of at least let them qualify and then figure out whether the crimes were intentional which they werent. Anything more will shock all the drivers. It was a GRAY AREA... Their are no rules when it comes to gray areas, because nothing was said to the teams personally or in the rule books about the fenders. So what is NASCAR going to punish them for something they didnt know that they couldnt do? I hope not.

Answer 3

The thing that many of the pro Hendrick people are missing is simple. Michael Waltrip was on Speed TV last night saying that Nascar gave out CAD drawings of the COT and made it VERY clear not to mess with the car. Messing with the COT when you have those drawings is similar to messing with the motor. YOU JUST DON"T DO IT! Forget the templates and whether it fit or not. Their cars didn't match what Nascar mandated at the beginning of the year for the COT. It may have fit the template, but it didn't fit the drawing. And for those of you who don't know about CAD's, you can build something EXTREMELY accurate with the use of CAD's. What I don't get is why massage the fenders for Sonoma where the additional downforce gains aren't really utilized.

Answer 4

Michael Waltrip was held out from qualifying at Daytona in February. He only made the race by finishing well enough in his Duel 150 qualifier.

As was said, NASCAR provided cad templates and gave the word pre-season about messing with the COT. Given that Knauss is the most penalized crew chief in the garage, this could be much bigger than 100/100/100,000 and six race suspension.

Having said that, I think NASCAR is making a mistake in taking the creativity and ability of teams to work and engineer their cars for competitive advantage. Not everyone is solely interested the public relations manufactered drivers soap opera.

Answer 5

I hear alot of people talking about the "gray" area..that JG & JJ did not use illegal parts and should not be penalized/fined. Wether you put on an illegal part or make some type of adjustement to a part of the car, it is still a form of modification. When the COT cars came out everyone was told no modifications..you leave the car alone and that there would be a no tolerance rule. I don't care if you used an illegal part, or adjusted part of the fender/car/frame- whatever ..you aren't suppose to change anything. I thought Nascar had made that very clear to the teams/drivers. So regardless of what they did, that shouldn't be made into consideration, the fact is they did something they weren't suppose to do and told not to do and they should be fined/penalized accordingly.

Answer 6

It wont be a double standard. The punishment must fit the "crime". The cars fit the template, JR's did not. They were not allowed to qualify and had to start in the back of the pack. They were not allowed to practice on Friday either. You cant compare what Busch did because that was a safety issue for an on track occurance (pit road, on track, whatever).

NASCAR is screwed either way by some of you people. For all those HMS haters, if they get the same penalty as Junior you will say, no big deal, JG leads in points and still will and what does 100,000 mean to him? Not much.

If NASCAR doesnt want their to be gray areas, then take all of them away. Get some kind of Laser template or something that does not allow any gray areas. Hell, sit your *** down and write a 3,987,863,872 page document that covers over square millimeter of the race car. Better yet, let NASCAR build all the cars and the race teams can pick them up on Fridays to drive them.

Its all rediculous. What happened to Juniors team was rediculous, anything more that happens to the 24 and 48 will be rediculous.

If it aint covered in the books clearly, then tough crap NASCAR.

Answer 7

This is just a smack on the hand to distract fans from the fact that Hendrick are cheaters. Ooh the fenders, I'm SURE that's all they've ever done. LMAO, these guys are pathetic, Nascar trumps their cars up and let's them go win everything under the sun, and nothing is going to change that. As to the retard who called Jr. one of the three best drivers in the sport, maybe you should crawl out of bed with your sister and look at that guy's stats. The only thing Jr. leads in is sales, and that is because of his daddy's name. That guy is a joke, obviously he'll never live up to his dad's records, hell he will never win a championship, I'll bet this guy goes to the cheater team and still can't win a championship, cause Gordon and Johnson will have same equipment, and they are such better drivers than him that it's insulting to speak his name in the same sentence as theirs. I just wonder how good they would be without the super cars.

Answer 8

NASCAR will show their stance by now penalizing the top three drivers in the sport, mainly the current two. Jr. already got nailed with his penalty and I'm sure Gordon's and JJ's are going to be just as stiff. I mean besides, if it wasn't as stiff, wouldn't there be some sort of "conspiracy" or "favoratism" towards them? We can't have that now can we? I would hate for the Jr. fans to become Hendrick whiners so soon if Gordon and JJ didn't get a good penalty. I'm sure it won't be enough in their eyes, but do you think these penalty's are really going to hurt them??? I don't think so. Oh and that wet dream everyone has about NASCAR suspending drivers, well get over it. On another prayer that Knaus becomes Jr.'s crew chief next year, are they gonna be hypocritically cool with Knaus "cheating"? Or will it just be a modern marvel for engineering?

Answer 9

I disagree with what Gene L called 'double jeopardy' occuring if further penalties are levied. Did Kurt Busch get hit with double jeopardy? He was parked after running into #20 on pit road in Dover. And a week later he was fined, put on probation ect. By your standards, he shouldn't have been, correct?
If NASCAR doesn't drop the same punishment on HMS that they did on Jr., it WILL be a double standard.

Answer 10

Jeff started at the back of the field and still had a top 10 finish... great driving and great strategy for the team.... As I recall, Hendrick had some innovations and modification to the car that still fit the template but they were ruled unacceptable..... It is alot different than using illegal substances and mounts...... Nascar will do what it wants to anyway.......