Trinity-How is Jesus GOD and the Son of GOD?

Question

John8:42 Jesus said to them: “If God were YOUR Father, YOU would love me, for from God I came forth and am here. Neither have I come of my own initiative at all, but that One sent me forth.

John 12:49 because I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak.

Answer 1

I tend to like Father K's answer.

However one thing is missing from all.

Your human mind is incapable of wraping your head around what is G-d.

While we couldnt imagine being 3 humans all at once, it is not the same thing as the trinity. G-d is infinitely greater in every way than the human in which he created.

The trinity best describes G-d.

While it would be nice to have a neat and compact definition... It isnt ours to have that kind of full understanding of him.

Answer 2

The trinity is a man made doctrine and is not supported by the Scriptures. The scriptures clearly describe Jesus as the Son of God(Luke 1:26-35) Also, when Jesus taught his followers to pray at Matthew 6:9,10 he was not talking to himself. Notice, at the begining of the Lord's Prayer it says"father in heaven, let your name be sanctified. Jesus was praying to God and it shows he has a name. In the old King James Version God's name can be found at Psalms 83:18 Also, after Jesus was baptized the scriptures say that a voice came from heaven and said, "This is my son, Listen to him." These Scriptures show that Jesus is God's son. And God's has a name and it is Jehovah. They are do different individuals that have the same goal and objective that is what is meant by the verse in the Bible ,"The Father and I are one." Many people use that to prove the trinity doctrine but it can illustrated like this, have you ever heard the saying Like father like son, it doesn't mean that a father and his son are the same person but it means they have the same mannerisms, goals, attitudes,etc.... That is the same with Jesus Christ and his father,GOD ALMIGHTY,Jehovah God. (Also check an older King James Version for the following verses with God's name Exodus 6:3, Psalms 83:18, and Isaiah 26:4)

Answer 3

It is not even a remote possibility that Jesus and Jehovah God are one and the same. They are two totally different spirit persons. Jesus was the firstborn of all creation and then through him all others things were created.
The trinity doctrine just goes to show us what Satan the devil is able to trick unsuspecting people into believing. Satan wants to draw attention away from Almighty God and have it directed to the Son instead. Sadly, the Devil's plan is working on those who refuse to see the truth.
Soon these ones will have to acknowledge who Jehovah God truly is, but by then, it will be too late.
LOBT

Answer 4

IT IS said that some Bible texts offer proof in support of the Trinity. However, when reading such texts, we should keep in mind that the Biblical and historical evidence does not support the Trinity.
Any Bible reference offered as proof must be understood in the context of the consistent teaching of the entire Bible. Very often the true meaning of such a text is clarified by the context of surrounding verses.
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THE New Catholic Encyclopedia offers three such "proof texts" but also admits: "The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the O[ld] T[estament]. In the N[ew] T[estament] the oldest evidence is in the Pauline epistles, especially 2 Cor 13.13 [verse 14 in some Bibles], and 1 Cor 12.4-6. In the Gospels evidence of the Trinity is found explicitly only in the baptismal formula of Mt 28.19."
In those verses the three "persons" are listed as follows in The New Jerusalem Bible. Second Corinthians 13:13 (14) puts the three together in this way: "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." First Corinthians 12:4-6 says: "There are many different gifts, but it is always the same Spirit; there are many different ways of serving, but it is always the same Lord. There are many different forms of activity, but in everybody it is the same God who is at work in them all." And Matthew 28:19 reads: "Go, therefore, make disciples of all nations; baptise them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
Do those verses say that God, Christ, and the holy spirit constitute a Trinitarian Godhead, that the three are equal in substance, power, and eternity? No, they do not, no more than listing three people, such as Tom, Dick, and Harry, means that they are three in one.
This type of reference, admits McClintock and Strong's Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature, "proves only that there are the three subjects named, . . . but it does not prove, by itself, that all the three belong necessarily to the divine nature, and possess equal divine honor."
Although a supporter of the Trinity, that source says of 2 Corinthians 13:13 (14): "We could not justly infer that they possessed equal authority, or the same nature." And of Matthew 28:18-20 it says: "This text, however, taken by itself, would not prove decisively either the personality of the three subjects mentioned, or their equality or divinity

Answer 5

Jesus always existed. He is realed to us as the Son because he became a man, born to Mary, and lived as a child of God. He existed as a part of God before this time, but was not called the Son. The book of Hebrews says that God said "you are my Son; today I have become your Father." The immaculate conception revealed him as the Son of God.

Let me explain the trinity this way.

God, Jehovah, Yahweh, the Almighty, whatever you want to call him- is the whole picture. He's like an egg.

When you examine an egg, it has three parts: a shell, the white, and the yoke. All are 100% egg, but none are complete without the other parts.

So we also have One God, expressed in three persons as the Father, Son, and Spirit. All are 100% God, but you don't have the full picture of who God is without all three.

Answer 6

You need only look in the book of John. I quote as follows :

John 1:1- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

John 1:14 - "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us ( and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth."

And finally, Jesus speaking :

John 10:30 - "I and my Father are one."

Likewise, the Word tells us that Mary, a virgin, conceived by the Holy Ghost, which is also God :

Luke 1:35 - "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."

You can see that it is made clear by these few scriptures that God the father is God, Jesus Christ (The Word) is God the Son, and the Holy Ghost ( or Spirit ) is also God. The Holy Trinity.

What Jehovah's Witnesses do with these scriptures, I do not know. I have had them e-mail me, and tell me that those scriptures do not mean that Jesus is God. But they clearly do.

May the peace of God be with you.

Answer 7

It includes the following definite ideas:

1. There are said to be three divine persons—the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit—in the Godhead.

2. Each of these separate persons is said to be eternal, none coming before or after the other in time.

3. Each is said to be almighty, with none greater or lesser than the other.

4. Each is said to be omniscient, knowing all things.

5. Each is said to be true God.

6. However, it is said that there are not three Gods but only one God.

I invite you to search the Bible, especially the 27 books of the Christian Greek Scriptures, to see for yourself if Jesus and his disciples taught a Trinity. As you search, ask yourself:

1. Can I find any scripture that mentions “Trinity”?

2. Can I find any scripture that says that God is made up of three distinct persons, Father, Son, and holy spirit, but that the three are only one God?

3. Can I find any scripture that says that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom?

Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity, nor will you find any that says that Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. Not even a single scripture says that the Son is equal to the Father in those ways—and if there were such a scripture, it would establish not a Trinity but at most a “duality.” Nowhere does the Bible equate the holy spirit with the Father.

Answer 8

The so-called 'trinity' concept really doesn't make much sense. If you're one, you're one; if you're three, you're three; there's just no other way to explain something as simple as that. To say otherwise just complicates things.

Come to think of it, how come the Virgin Mary, the MOTHER, doesn't get a share of this divinity? I mean, she's the MOTHER for crying out loud and instead we get a 'holy ghost'? Methinks the Christian faith don't favor women too well. *coughsalemwitchtrialscough*

And I never understood how Christians have varying beliefs about the trinity. About how some say he's just the son of God, how others say he IS God, how some say he's 'both'... Where's the consistency?

The fact many of the people above have to use several paragraphs to explain the existence of God in their view says lots about their beliefs.

Oh yeah, one more thing I'd like to add... Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say "I am the son of God" so most likely the trinity is something Christians pulled outta their @$$.

Answer 9

Include also the Holy Spirit in this God head. Many explanations can explain little here because the Holy Trinity is a mystery or something about which we do not have complete knowledge. It is one of those things we have to take on faith.

Answer 10

The hypostatic union is the term used to describe how God the Son, Jesus Christ, took on a human nature, yet remained fully God at the same time. Jesus always had been God (John 8:58; 10:30), but at the incarnation Jesus took on human flesh - He became a human being (John 1:14). The addition of the human nature to the divine nature is Jesus, the God-man. This is the hypostatic union, Jesus Christ, one Person, fully God and fully man.

Jesus' two natures, human and divine, are inseparable. Jesus will forever be the God-man, fully God and fully human, two distinct natures in one Person. Jesus' humanity and divinity are not mixed, but are united without loss of separate identity. Jesus sometimes operated with the limitations of humanity (John 4:6; 19:28) and other times in the power of His deity (John 11:43; Matthew 14:18-21). In both, Jesus' actions were from His one Person. Jesus had two natures, but only one person or personality.

The doctrine of the hypostatic union is an attempt to explain how Jesus could be both God and man at the same time. It is ultimately, though, a doctrine that we are incapable of fully understanding. It is impossible for us to fully understand how God works. We, as finite human beings, should not expect to be able to comprehend an infinite God. Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived by the Holy Spirit (Luke 1:35). But that does not mean Jesus did not exist before He was conceived. Jesus always has existed (John 8:58; 10:30). When Jesus was conceived, He became a human being in addition to being God (John 1:1,14).

Jesus is both God and man. Jesus has always been God, but He did not become a human being until He was conceived in Mary. Jesus became a human being so that He could identify with us in our struggles (Hebrews 2:17) and, more importantly, so that He could die on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins (Philippians 2:5-11). In summary, the hypostatic union teaches that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine, that there is no mixture or dilution of either nature, and that He is one united Person, forever.

Recommended Resource: The Moody Handbook of Theology by Paul Enns.