Do you believe that fossils are as old as scientists say?

Question

If so, conspiracy meeting tonight at 7:30pm Eastern time. email me, pangel or lok for the url.

if not, what do you believe happened?

lol thanks for that tip, Printninja.. I'll be sure to do just that..lmao

It is an actual meeting :)

Answer 1

Drat! I missed half a raid yesterday, and now a conspiracy meeting! How's a poor simple heathen supposed to stay up to speed?

While I don't have all the data on the various fossil dating methods, I do know that they fit consistently within the age of the Earth as estimated by the erosion rates of solid granite mountains in the Alps.

Good enough for me. I'm more into genetic analysis and neurobiology in my light reading. :-)

Answer 2

Hmm, ...

Maybe the Rev. above should stop using quotes about fossils that are 30 years out of date.

Many fossils have been found during that time and science has progressed a long way.

It's too bad that creationism doesn't even try to keep up.

Answer 3

Well, in order to find out you'd have to get the results of the carbon dating, or DNA testing, etc. on the fossil. Whether you get it is another story. Sometimes, I think it could be possible because some of these "Scientist" are frauds. My meaning is they are in it for the wrong reason. Money, Noteriety, etc. (I'm sure there are other scientists who feel the same way.)

Answer 4

From what I gather, carbon dating is not accurate past 40-60,000 years or so. Like a lot of scientific theory, they found a model that fits, and passes all tests, and presume it applies in all cases till proven wrong. After 60,000 years, maybe the scale of carbon degradation goes logarithmic ? Impossible to prove, given the time scales(I'd argue this applies to radiometric dating, or any other dating technique as well. Who knows what happens after 60,000 years, perhaps something unexpected ?)But I seem to recall there is other corroborating evidence using different methods to show the time scale is in the millions. I prefer it when science doesn't guess.

Answer 5

No. Radiometric dating is unreliable. As with other isochron methods, the U-Pb isochron method has been questioned, because often an excellent line of best fit between ratios obtained from a set of good cogenetic samples gives a resultant isochron and yields a derived age that has no distinct geological meaning. At Koongarra, Australia, U-Th-Pb isotopic studies of uranium ore, host rocks and soils have produced an array of false isochrons that yield ages that are geologically meaningless. Even a claimed near-concordant U-Pb age of 862Ma on one uraninite grain is identical to a false Pb-Pb isochron age, but neither can be connected to any geological event. Open system behavior of the U-Th-Pb system is clearly the norm, as is the resultant mixing of radiogenic Pb with common or background Pb, even in soils in the surrounding region. Because no geologically meaningful results can be interpreted from the U-Th-Pb data at Koongarra (three uraninite grains even yield a 232Th/208Pb age of 0Ma), serious questions must be asked about the validity of the fundamental/foundational basis of the U-Th-Pb dating method. This makes the task of creationists building their model for the geological record much easier, since claims of U-Th-Pb radiometric dating having proven the claimed great antiquity of the earth, its strata and fossils can be safely side-stepped.

Printninja and several others need to get some education, you might be amazed at what the world has to teach you.

Answer 6

oooo conspiracy meeting.....sounds fun. lol.

I don't know. we ( that untrue religion Mormonism :) have been told that the Earth will be around 7000 years old when Christ will come again, and that Adam was on the earth sometime around 4000 B.C. But they haven't said anything about the fossils and stuff. maybe God doesn't want us to know. or maybe they came from some other planet to be here for our fuel, since that is what it is used for. One of the many reasons I can't wait to see God again, so i can ask him.


ardw7, please do not yell.

Answer 7

Pal, at 71 I am a bleeping fossil, and some bleeping mornings I feel a helluva lot older than scientists say I am.

Answer 8

No, I don't believe what scientists "say." I believe what the evidence supports, and the evidence supports fossils being millions of years old.

Get some education and you might be amazed at what the world has to teach you.

Answer 9

Yes i do believe they are as old as scientists say, ok give or take a few million years either way, but hey,whats a few million years between friends? lol

conspiracy meeting sound intriguing though!!

Answer 10

Aha... so you're denying that you and I travelled to Montana, Pennsylvania and all over the world together planting those fossils to confuse people? Tsk... and it was such a fun conspiracy up until now... now I'm just... hurt... and all snuffly.

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