According to the bible, what is the eterneal fate of the 9-11 WTC jumpers?

Question

Technically speaking, they committed suicide. But in reality all they did was choose how they died. Also, what about the one who struck and killed a fireman on the ground? Did that make his act a sin?

offenzalot, saying the question is infantile and moronic is a cop out. If it is so, there should be a simple and clear cut answer that you could provide in lieu of an insult. I realize that it is an uncomfortable topic, but the core question of whether or not the jumpers committed suicide is anything but infantile (IMO).

thanks gz. I am only back for a bit. Not like I was before.

Answer 1

I find it odd that anyone would think up a question like this.
The Bible prohibits murder. That should answer your question.

Answer 2

Sorry, I have no answer to your question ... but it does raise an interesting point about the nature of free will when it comes to choosing how to die when you are clearly making an either/or choice (which could be extended to include assited suicide with terminally-ill people).

The guy who killed the fire-fighter had no intention to do so, nor could he reasonably (in what must have been a state of extreme fear and distress) foresee the possibility, so that lets him off the hook for murder.

What I have found very interesting is the bizarre nature/content of some of the other answers ... where do these people come from, and do they have any contact with reality as perceived by the rest of us?
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Answer 3

I too remember those terrible images. That is an interesting perspective. Sometimes the 'shorthand' way in which we describe events, falls well short of the truth of a given situation. Those people may well have suffered the most terrible of all the deaths on that day. I have never referred to them as 'jumpers' or suicides. I refer to them as I do others... victims.

Answer 4

I think according to the bible, if taken completely literally, they would go to hell. But logic would tell you that god probably isn't that petty in his judgements, and that he has the option to make exceptions for whatever reason he sees fit since he made the rules to begin with. (assuming god exists)

As some have suggested, it was out of desperation...."technically not suicide", because they were doomed to dye anyway ...it was adrenaline that pushed them to jump !......however you'll get double speak and back paddling from these same people when you ask them about assisted suicide. People with terminal illnesses are also doomed to die painfully, but according to religous fundamentalists, suicide is suicide...therefore, assisted suicide no matter what the circumstance, is illegal in America and a sin according to the church.

The guy who landed on the firefighter did so on accident obviously,...however, if you take the fact that he jumped to begin with as a sin, then any resulting harm to another person would only compound that sin. Sort of like involuntary manslaughter..... If I tried to kill myself, bullet to the head, and the bullet passed through my head and killed someone else..but miraculously I survived, I would go to prison.

I would like to see how the pope would answer this question....

Answer 5

I was not aware of any blanket commandment that said that taking ones own life was always a sin.

Besides, if they jumped in order to avoid certain death, then obviously they were not committing suicide per se, since they had no real choice in the matter.

And as for killing the fireman on the ground, it seems obvious that this was an accident. The jumper was not deliberately trying to murder anyone, as far as we can tell.

Answer 6

OK first off the Firefighter that the jumper landed on was Father Mychal Judge the Chaplain for the FDNY.How did you expect people to answer this.Did you ever stop to wonder what was going through their minds when they jumped.There are alot of people that think it would be better to die instantly other than dying in a fire.Once you die God decides where you spend eternity.

Answer 7

Well, the thing is...and yes, I know this is going to sound like a cop-out...we don't know.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say what happens to people who commit suicide.

Only God can judge them.

As for the person who struck and killed a firefighter, what it comes down to is intent. Did he intend to kill the firefighter? Did he intend to kill ANYONE? Not only that, but most people who jump from buildings aren't killed by their impact with the ground. They die of fright. The man who jumped and killed the firefighter when he landed was probably already dead.

But again, we don't know. Only God can judge.

Answer 8

When a person is saved they are saved of all sins past present and future, otherwise the only people who would ever go to heaven would be the ones who by chance died between repenting and sinning again.

whether or not suicide is a sin (I don't have an opinion either way on the issue) it does not determine whether a person goes to heaven, What matters is whether or not the person had accepted the Grace of God and been Born Again.

How you die is irrelevent, even if you die in sin.
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Answer 9

9-11 WTC jumpers are not mentioned per se. Judgement is in the hands of God and not for the amusement of some. Ask God he does have all the answers

Answer 10

The bible does not say what their fate is. RCC and some other sects believe that it is a sin to commit suicide and that such a sin cannot be repented, but the jumpers were not trying to kill themselves - they were trying to escape death in the fire.

Answer 11

The Bible does not say suicide is an "unforgivable sin." That's a teaching from outside of scriptures, and one I don't believe.

I believe that those jumpers are in Heaven, if they genuinly accepted Christ as LORD and Savior.

As for a final sin...once we accept Christ, we are forgiven ONCE for ALL sin. We don't need to keep asking for forgiveness daily. Christ died once for all. That was enough. Grace covers us.