Judaism/ Christianity?

Question

I ask this mostly of Thso who are Jews by belief. It is not meant to incite or cause any anger,merely though and reflection. History says Christianity was,at one time a sect of Judaism. But I also understand that many Jews over the centuries see and have seen Christianity as a heresy of Judaism. My question is this Is there a way that Christians might at some point be,again considered as a sect of Judaism? Please try to focus not on theyears of repression ( do the sons pay for the sins of the father?) Can you give me theological reasoning? And ifI have a questionit will be to clarify things. My intent is not proselytation. It is intellectual curiosity and a feeling of loss that we have been sepersted for these centuries.

first let me apologize for my typing I am an excellent speller but lousy typist ( spinal nerve problem. Next One of you did mention the messianic Jews and how they are not counted as jews. But thereare budhist jews. And could you explain to me more about why that cannot happen?(is it in the Talmud) and What if a person becomes a Christian or messianic Jew ( which ever you feel comfortable with ( if you see a difference please explain) who had been through Shoa and had the tatoo to prove it? Thank you and once again forgive me my typing.

To idaho We were once called the Nazarenes or followers of the way and that was when the vast majority were Jews. So how can your answer be?

Answer 1

In the first few decades after Jesus' death the Christians were mainly Jews and were a sect of Judaism- in the centuries after that the majority of Jews that had followed Christianity left it to return to Judaism as its theology drifted aweay from judaism, adopting Pagan ideas and symbology, until the Rabbis finally closed the synagogues to the Christians.

Christianity is totally divorced from Judaism theologically
1) The belief that God would physically manifest to produce a child is the opposite of Jewish belief
2) The belief that God is made up of different beings is the opposite of Jewish belief in the single, undivided nature of God.
3) The belief that any being could set itself up in opposition to God (i.e. the devil) is the opposite of Jewish belief in which God is the sole and only authority and author of events in the world
4) The idea of eternal damnation for people who err (Hell), is the opposite of Jewish belief in which God is loving and always forgives.
5) The idea that God would ever cancel his convenant, after explicitly stating it was eternal, and thus turning God into a liar, is the opposite of Jewish belief
6) The idea that God could ever make a mistake (i.e. that the law he gave was too difficult to follow and was thus replaced with the sacrifice of his "son") is the opposite of the Jewish belief that God is perfect and never makes mistakes.
7) The idea that God can make mistakes is also the opposite of the Jewish belief that God is eternal and across all of time (God is, God was, God will be) and thus knows rthe consequences of every action and can tus never makes mistakes or not know the result sof something he does.

Given the above- Christianity could never again become a sect of Judaism as it has become the opposite of Judaism in too many ways.

Answer 2

Baha'i is really not a mix of religions. Baha'i is actually a whole new set of beliefs and values. If you go to a Baha'i temple you will see that they don't talk about the Bible, Torah, or Qur'an but writings unique to their following. The reason people use the term "Judeo-Christian" is because the Christian movement started out as a Jewish sect and has many of the fundamental beliefs that Jews hold. Including the exclusive worship of Yahweh. I am a Christian and a strict monotheist. We do not share the same beliefs or worldview as the Muslims do and Allah's attributes are actually different from Yahweh's. Plus, Islam begins to differ from Judaism very early on starting with Ishmael and Issac. In their practice and observance of their beliefs, that is their methods of worship Judaism and Islam are more in common.

Answer 3

Christianity started out as a sect of Judaism, yes. But it's changed so much since that reconciling the two today is simply impossible.

For instance, Judaism believes that God is one, period. The Shema, one of the central credos of Judaism, goes "Listen, Israel, Hashem is our God, Hashem is one".
Christianity, on the other hand, believes in a three-in-one deity, split between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
This is considered pure idolatry in Judaism, but essential to Christianity. I don't really see the possibility of a happy reunion here.

And on the topic of the nature of God, Judaism insists that God is incorporeal, and immortal. And we see the idea of God impregnating a woman as paganistic, as well as just plain gross.
Christianity is based on the assumption that God got a woman pregnant, became human, and died. Again, there's not much to reconcile here.

The last major rift is about man's relationship to God. Judaism believes that everyone is born pure, and has direct access to God. Christianity believes that everyone is born sinful, and needs to get to God through Jesus.

I really hate to disappoint you, but for Christianity to be considered a part of Judaism, it would have to be changed beyond recognition. (Jews for Jesus, by the way, is mostly Christianity with Jewish trappings. It certainly isn't Judaism). You might as well try combining Buddhism with Islam.
If you really feel a loss that we have been "seperated for these centuries", there's no reason our religions can't be friendly with each other. But the only way a modern Christian could be considered Jewish is if s/he converts.

Answer 4

Christians were at one time one of many differing forms of Judaism until Paul discovered that Jews would never believe Jesus to be the messiah. He then decided to convert non-Jews to Christianity. How many converts do you think he could find who were willing to be circumcized -- and follow the 613 Jewish commandments. Christians of today don't even follow the 10 commandments!

As Nadine says, there is no god in Buddhism. Meditation is an excellent way to treat stress. It isn't always a religious function!
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Answer 5

I just don't see how that could happen. Anyone who believes that Jesus is the Messiah and accepts his divinity and accepts the idea of the Trinity is not and cannot be Jewish. Now, of course, people will bring up Jews for Jesus or Messianic Jews, but those people are not considered part of the Jewish religion by other Jews. Jews are still waiting for the Messiah to come and to us, it's not Jesus. So how could that work?

Edit: One can be both Jewish and follow Buddhist precepts. Buddhism has no God. But it is like Judaism in that they believe in doing good works here in Earth.

Answer 6

Messiah hasn't come. The 'prophecies' that Jesus 'fulfills' are misreadings of the texts. Like the one with 'Immanual'. That story is about a specific historical moment and reassurances to the king that the war will end before a certain child had grown. That child was being carried by a young woman in the room. The prophet said that his name was to be 'Immanuel' to remind everyone that the war would end. That sort of naming is common in Torah and Tanakh.

Really read your Hebrew and understand what the texts are actually about. Understand that Moshiach hasn't come.

It's as simple as that.

Answer 7

"Christianity" was never a "sect" of Judaism... The Chruch was commissioned by Jesus The Christ because The Nation of Israel (the Jews) rejected The Salvation Message... The Teaching Of Jesus The Christ, which is The Word and Will of God, was first given to The Nation of Israel. But The Church, which is made up of those of The True Christian Faith, is open to All who will come to God in The Way He prescribes. Jew or Gentile... and is not part of The Nation of Israel and has never been... and never will be... that said... The Nation of Israel remains God's chosen people... and one day a remnant of The Nation of Israel will return to God in The Way He prescribes... to carry out a vital part of God's plan in The last days before Christ returns.

Answer 8

I have to say no, Chritianity is not a sect of Judaism. Jews who accept Christ as savior are considered "Messianic Jews" or "Completed Jews". Many Gentiles (Non-Jews) come to Christ having never even considered converting to Judaism.

Answer 9

There is an old saying that Judaism is the root and Christianity the fruit.

Answer 10

History does not say Judaism was ever a part of Christianity.It wasn't formed until the 6th century in Babylon.