Joseph Smith said, "We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345). But the Book of Mormon says in Moroni 8:18, "For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity."
2007-06-25 06:43:11 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
dritzz- Do you know what eternity means?
2007-06-25 06:53:42 · update #1
From Eternity to eternity = infinity past to infinity present. We do not have eternal life until we believe in Christ, according to the Bible.
God is eternal, we are created.
2007-06-25 16:17:29 · update #2
God stays the same, main stream christians believe this, but mormons believe that God can change or that man changes his mind and so therefore continued prophecy comes in, prophecy as described in the bible in 1 corinthinas 14 is about the future of one persons life, not a whole group in general, or maybe for the body of christ and not for a whole group like the mormon who number in the thousands.
2007-06-26 04:18:53 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Or even the Bible for that matter...
Malachi 3:6
“For I am the LORD, I do not change."
Joseph Smith is their #1 prophet. This is a very telling quote.
Here is more of the quote which will confirm Drizzt's post below mine...
"....for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see. These are incomprehensible ideas to some, but they are simple. It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did; and I will show it from the Bible." - Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345; Journal of Discourses, 6:3
This discourse from a so-called "prophet" goes counter to the Living God of the Bible.
Isaiah 57:15
For thus says the High and Lofty One Who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy: “ I dwell in the high and holy place,With him who has a contrite and humble spirit, To revive the spirit of the humble, And to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
Isa 41:4 Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I YHWH, the first, and with the last; I am he.
Isa 48:12 Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.
2007-06-25 13:48:49 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
(New Testament | Matthew 13:14 - 15)
You read it, you hear it, yet you undertand not. Read it again.
18 For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity.
(Book of Mormon | Moroni 8:18)
The key word is "Eternity" and "God"
Our doctrine said nothng about a changing God. Man changes, not God. It said nothing about being man is for eternity, but being God is for eternity.
Indeed God does not change, once he became a God.
2007-06-25 14:58:33 · answer #3 · answered by Wahnote 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If God is eternal without beginning, then how can WE have "eternal" life if we have a beginning?
Moroni 8:18 sort of begs the question then, what is meant by "all eternity to all eternity"?
2007-06-25 21:21:46 · answer #4 · answered by mormon_4_jesus 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Now that he is God, yes he is unchangeable, but he was not always a "god." He was a human just like us, who had the same life we did, and went through the same things we did, and had a loving Father, like God is to us. Our God was righteousness enough to become a God, and then he had us as his children, and he created this earth for us to come live on and prove ourselves if we would follow Him and obey him. If we do this, then we can live with him forever and become Gods as well. And no, he did not grow up on Kolob and he does not live on Kolob.
EDIT: eternity is forever. We will all live for eternity, but we will not all live with God for eternity. It's your choice where you will be for eternity.
2007-06-25 13:49:21 · answer #5 · answered by . 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Im not mormon Im christian and i have to say God is God and always BE God and no one can change it.
2007-06-25 13:46:55 · answer #6 · answered by Slacker23 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God has a Wonder Plan for Us, but He has Give us only Bits and Pieces thereof as to Not Confound our ways to Come unto Him. "Wherefore Polygamy IS essential for Salvation, Whoops, Lemme Change that unto a Little Bit and saith Maybe Not so Fast, and also my creation of the Mark Of Cain shall be an Ensign unto you as Bad Evil representitives of Satan on Earth, whoooa, Never Mind - that's not so Good either."
And the saith Him: "Liketh not my Book of Mormon, dost thee? Well, maybe thou do canst do a Better Job? - Besides Moby Dick and The Hobbit, I meaneth?"
Yoda makes more sense and is far more consistent.
2007-06-25 14:25:45 · answer #7 · answered by Dances with Poultry 5 · 1⤊ 4⤋
You may have answered your own question.
2007-06-25 13:48:16 · answer #8 · answered by MS 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋