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i have several questions regarding this:

1) when you say Jesus died for our sins, who is "our"?

2) if you still ask for forgiviness and repent, then what was the point of Jesus getting killed?

3) can you commit any crime you wish to do under the title "jesus died for our sins" and still will go to heaven?

4) do you think i should trust a person who says "Jesus died for our sins regardless of what crime we do?" that's mean he will not be afraid to do something bad as he believed he already been forgiven.

2007-06-25 03:05:04 · 28 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

28 answers

Yes

1 Our = mankind. All mankind who receive Jesus atonement for our sins.

2 You need to confess Jesus Christ your Lord & Savior to God. Jesus shed His blood for remission of your sins. See?
Jesus Is sinless. Without the shedding of blood (innocent) there is no remission of sins. This is the foundation of the repentance. Where one realizes they have sinned & are lost. Receiving Jesus atonement for ones sins. The water baptism represents this. The old sinful man dies (goes down) Jesus shed blood washes away our sins. The new man in Christ comes up alive forevermore. (This is being born again, born of His Spirit, cleansed by His blood, joint heirs with King Jesus & part of the family of God).
This spiritual birth is the new you. Where we make the soul choice to die to the flesh reactions (yelling, cussing, etc.) and make the soul choice to follow after the Spirit (faith, hope, love, joy, peace, patience, honesty, truth, etc...).

3 No & yes. It is impossible to abide in sin (make it a pleasant habit) because of the Holy Seed within. The Holy Spirit starts convicting our soul at the root of the problem, & that is before a crime is committed. If a Christian attempts to abide in sin, then is miserable & if continue trying, may go to heaven early.
But once you are born again, you are always born again. You are made the righteousness of Christ. Nothing we do or don't do will change that. The spiritual birth is everlasting life.

4 Jesus died for everyone. Jesus said, that to drink of the fruit of the vine that this is His blood that is shed for the remission of sins of many... See? Many. All who will believe in Him. That would include any sin. See? The old sinful man's slate has been wiped clean, & a new person born of His spirit alive forever more.

But the baby Christian needs to renew ones mind in the Truth, the Word of God. Also, we will sin again & the Holy Spirit convicts or disciplines. The we read in 1Jn1, that if we confess our sins to Him (Jesus), He is righteous & just to forgive us our sins & cleanse us from all unrighteousness. See? Our sins are rooted in wrong thinking.

The reality is that our sins are always covered by Christ righteousness. So? We still need to confess as soon as the Spirit convicts our inner spiritman. We might be free from the law of sin & death, but we are still under God's law of Grace. Trust & obey, or be disciplined.

2007-06-25 03:25:30 · answer #1 · answered by LottaLou 7 · 1 1

Before Jesus came in the flesh, we are told that sinners who repented WERE saved by faith in the substitute slayed animal sacrifices outlined by God. And like those of today, they had to stop sinning (that's what repenting means). The actual atonement, however, took place with perfect timing when Jesus became the ultimate sacrifice these animals prefigured. So before Jesus came, the people looked FORWARD to the cross while those after, look BACK to the atonement on the cross. Therefore, in a way, you're right: it is the same for those who repent of their sins. For those who don't, there is no sacrifice or heaven. It really wouldn't have mattered when God would have chosen to send Jesus to earth but being gracious as He is, He gave mankind all the prophecies needed to help man recognize the true Messiah and prove, once again, that God keeps His promises regarding salvation and judgments. He couldn't have made these any clearer.

2016-04-01 03:29:13 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

1.) Every human being. John 3:16, and others

2.) Because there had to be atonement for our sins. Hebrews 9, the whole chapter, and others

(3 &4 are basically the same question)

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? (KJV)

1John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death. (KJV)

1 John 3:4 Everyone who is a sinner goes against the law, for sin is going against the law.(BBE)

1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (KJV)

1John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (KJV)

Galatians 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are clear, which are these: evil desire, unclean things, wrong use of the senses, 20 Worship of images, use of strange powers, hates, fighting, desire for what another has, angry feelings, attempts to get the better of others, divisions, false teachings,
21 Envy, uncontrolled drinking and feasting, and such things: of which I give you word clearly, even as I did in the past, that they who do such things will have no part in the kingdom of God.

2007-06-25 03:21:35 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Jesus did die for our sins. He was brought to this earth to share what his father taught him in Heaven. He was born of a virgin, he was a carpenter's son. Jesus taught us many things. He even performed miracles. Jesus is so awesome. You can ask him into your heart, and then he will be there forever. To answer you question about that should you trust someone who says "Jesus died for our sins regardless of what crime we do?" Say you have committed a crime, and you regret it, you can ask Jesus to forgive you of what you have done, but if you don't accept Jesus he will not forgive you. I hope this has answered you question.

2007-06-25 03:21:15 · answer #4 · answered by Lisa E 2 · 1 1

1. Our=people. I think JESUS meant people in general but now I think it has changed to just Christian people.
2. I think people should ask forgiveness not just for theirs sins but the fact that we forgot what Jesus has done and we took advantage of him by committing such sins and not even thinking about what he has done for us.
3. My opinion: if you're going to commit a crime knowing that you're gonna go to heaven then NO because that's disobeying God and Jesus. You're taking advantage of him but if you ask for forgiveness (not for the crime but for the fact that you just disrespected him and if you learn from your mistake from it) then you should go to heaven.
4. No ofcourse not. Did Jesus tell us that we can commit any crime we want and still go to heaven? He taught us how to love one another and follow the right path and if we take advantage of him, then what's the point ?


I'm not a Christian but this is just my opinion so don't take offense to it.

2007-06-25 03:17:07 · answer #5 · answered by Save A Tree [Remove a Bush] 4 · 0 1

1. "our" is we who have faith and trust in the Lord Jesus
2. to pay the penalty
3. if you have faith, you will not desire to "commit any crime"
4. no it doesn't mean you wouldn't still fear God! And if you are a child and a friend of Jesus; that is if you have fellowship with the living God, you may still sin but it will be a fight to be righteous; have you ever had a crush on someone? You want to be like them. We have a crush on Jesus; we want to be like him; sinless....yes, the debt is paid, the bill cancelled. But shall we go on sinning so that grace may abound? May it never be!

2007-06-25 03:11:27 · answer #6 · answered by karen i 5 · 1 1

Several questions, but I will try to sum it all up succinctly as I can.

When Jesus died, he was paying the price for the sins of all of mankind. Since justice had been satisfied in God’s eyes, then technically the word “our” refers to “whomever wants it”. Jesus died for the sins of whomever wants Jesus to die for his sins. If you are the kind of person who wants to pay for your own sins yourself by spending an eternity in Hell, then Jesus obviously did not die for you. Jesus did not die for proud people who want to try to “earn” God’s favor (Doing good deeds is simply doing your duty as a human being – you are not doing God a “favor” by doing good, so God does not “owe” anyone Heaven, or anything else for that matter. People get into Heaven simply by God’s grace – God does not owe you nor I anything, no matter how much good you may have thought that you have done.). Thinking that you can “earn” your way into Heaven by doing good deeds alone seems to be the sin of pride, according to Jesus. One also needs to have his sins forgiven as well, since only a proud person would assume that he was so perfect that he had never done anything wrong, or that God needed no apology.

What was the point of Jesus being killed? God said that the penalty of sin was “death”. No exceptions. So someone has to die for each and every sin, or else God did not keep his word. The death of Jesus shows us how seriously God views sin.

Can you commit any sin and still get to Heaven? Actually, no. In order to be forgiven, then you must be sincerely sorry for what you have done, and plan to make amends if you can. You cannot plan to be sorry in the future for a sin that you are going to commit now -- that is ridiculous. The Bible suggests that there will actually be more wrath for people who abuse God’s grace and try to use it as a loophole for more sin. Abuse of God’s grace in this way is mocking God, and appears to be a serious sin in of itself.

I hope that this answered your questions.

2007-06-25 03:24:51 · answer #7 · answered by Randy G 7 · 2 1

"Our" is every human being. You are forgiven for your sins if you truly are sorry and ask for forgiveness. You can't commit sins, and expect to be forgiven if you keep doing them and are not truly sorry. To go to Heaven you have to trust and believe in the Lord. You can attend church everyday, and follow all 10 commandments, but if you do not believe, you won't make it to Heaven. To learn and understand, try getting a beginner's Bible, and attend church services.

2007-06-25 03:20:46 · answer #8 · answered by iviss84 2 · 0 1

"Our" is all the people of the world, the humans God created.

To recoginize that he died for you and that you believe what he did and you believe that he took it upon himself as a sacrifice so you could live in paradise with Him one day.

No, because if you commit a sin, with the intention of, no big deal, I'll just ask forgiveness later, it's just making fun of God and his promise to us that he is just and will forgive us. That is unless this person comes to God with a repentant heart, which means he turns from his ways, he goes away from that sin, and any others he was commiting just because.

Yes I do,because you can't be forgiven until you truly ask for the forgiveness. When you do that, you're slate is wiped clean to God. It's empty, and remains that way as long as you believe in God and ask forgiveness daily.

2007-06-25 03:12:47 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

1. Our sins is everyone who was there in the present and in the future

2. That he was innocent unlike us and a perfect and sinless sacrifice is needed (like any most religions). Since he died, we can ask for forgiveness and repent

3. Yes, but if you love God you won't go out and kill someone chances are unless you are mentallly ill

4. Yes, you should trust him but you would have to elaborate more on the details

2007-06-25 03:09:50 · answer #10 · answered by Me 3 · 3 1

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