Why do the christians that love to trash the science of evolution refuse to accept the evidence we show them?

Question

Time and again, they come up with stuff like "where's the transitional stuff showing a bear becoming a whale" or "If everything came from an Amoeba, why aren't Amobeas making anything new still!". Both these points come from an answer to a previous question.

Isn't it sad when someone shows so little ability to comprehend simple concepts?

Why chose a bear turning into a whale?

Is it because of distress at transitional fossils being found that clearly show the change from land mammal to whale and the links with modern day hippos?

Who said we all came from amobeas?

I always thought the building blocks of life were proteins and amino acids and that amobeas were just one example of early life forms.

Isn't it obvious that it takes time for things to change? Aren't single cell organisms still going through evolutionary processes that we are rarely aware of?

Is this further evidence of poor education for some christians?

Earl D..........Well at least you've read a little bit about it.........but I think you'll find that evidence of the fused chromosone is pretty overwhelming due to its corresponding with where the original two were. Last time I read about it, that observation was presented as PROOF.

The lack of an "Evolution" department in universities does not mean that it's not science. Being a part of biology makes it plainly, science.

And do you really think that the bible makes more sense?

There's plenty of other points I'd love to make, but I seriously doubt you're likely to accept the evidence seeing as you're so keen to grab at any gap in knowledge you can find to suggest that a book of fairytales is a more accurate presentation of reality.

Answer 1

coz it's not in the bible

Answer 2

Why chose a bear turning into a whale? - I don't know why either, I tend to choose a T-Rex into a chicken.

Who said we all came from amobeas? - Well, evolution states that life started with single celled organisms, and today's version of that is the amoeba. Granted, if you're an evolutionist you'll state that those cells were more like fetal stem cells, but you didn't mention that.

Is this further evidence of poor education for some christians?
- I think this poor education or at the very least poor preparation on your part. Here's my argument for a higher creating power (in my opinion God).

The lowest forms of life pro-create asexually, meaning that they develope two of everything and then split in two. How do you argue the development of different sexes to create a new and unique being?

In evolution the assumption is that Humans are most closely related to chimpanzees. The new Michael Crichton book Next explores the possibility of a human/chimp cross breed. But the reality is that this is quite impossible. There are breeds of birds who are not able to cross breed. Its different in the dog world where they all have the same chromosomes and while a Jack Russel couldn't carry the pups of a Great Dane, the vice-versa is possible. If you can show me where a human carried a chimp en-utero to birth, I'll give you a nod there.

The biggest reason I believe in a higher power is you can't deny certain things to be miracles or otherwise impossible.

Take the flood story in Genesis. It clearly explains why we're finding trilobite fossils in soil samples that are said to be only a few thousand years old. It also explains the disappearance of dinosaurs, the possibility of the Loch Ness Monster and the Lake Champlain monster, and that weird thing the Japanese pulled up a few years back. It also explains the balance of predator vs prey in the world.

I'd like to go on, but I have to get moving.

Answer 3

I cannot speak for your Christian friends but everyone here seems to be missing the mark. Whether or not one accepts the story of Creation in Genesis to be metaphorical (which it most likely is since the people it was being taught to back then were quite primitive) or not, the theory of evolution does not preclude the existence of a Creator. All we know is that there is a physical universe and mathematicians claim there are at least ten other dimensions.

What no one knows is how it got here. Did it always exist or was it created by someone who always existed? Both are equally unlikely but they are the only choices. Believing in either one does not dismiss the other.

Evolution or more correctly, natural selection explains a lot but it fails to explain everything. The main issue is the sudden emergence of homosapiens or modern man. You see, modern man has a remarkably complex brain with far more capacity than any primitive would ever need. This brain would be an expensive luxury for the earliest humans.

For instance, it requires huge amounts of high quality proteins and other complex nutrition. It had a capacity so vast that it could learn far more than all the available knowledge for many, many centuries. Certainly, this is a poor choice for natural selection if simple survival was the goal.

Look at the offspring. Human babies are completely helpless at birth and cannot even walk effectively for a year or more. They are at least twelve years away from being self-suficient and even longer before they bring in more than they consume.

None of these features are helpful for early man's survival. Yet they are necessary for early man to have self-awareness. This self-awareness was more of a burden than a help to early man.

Just look at the other beasts of the earth. Horses are born and immediately get up and start running. This is an excellent survival feature. Other primates' offspring are able to hang on to their mother quite soon after birth, freeing both of her hands. Other primates reach maturity at anywhere between 2 to 10 years.

This sort of kills the idea of natural selection coming up with man and as such opens the door to many other possibilities. One obvious one is a kind of intervention. Perhaps by a higher form of life, perhaps God. So you see, evolution through natural selection is a fact. You only need to look at any pedigree dogs to see that. Just don't be fooled into thinking it answers the ultimate question: How did we get here, why are we here and where are we going?



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Answer 4

Is it precisely the overall lack of basic education that allows Christians to easily overlook simple scientific concepts. They don't really understand the Theory, all they do is re hash the same questions other Christians ask. The most popular being, 'If we came from monkeys how comes there's still monkeys' and as you put 'show where a bear became a whale' or whatever.

About one-third of the American adult population believes the Bible is the actual word of God and is to be taken literally word for word, a new Gallup poll reveals. This percentage is only slightly lower than several decades ago.

Gallup reports that the majority of those "who don't believe that the Bible is literally true believe that it is the inspired word of God but that not everything it in should be taken literally." Finally, about one in five Americans believe the Bible is merely an ancient book of "fables, legends, history, and moral precepts recorded by man."

There is also a strong relationship between education and belief in a literal Bible, Gallup explains, with such belief becoming much less prevalent as schooling continues.

Those who believe in the literal Bible amount to 31% of adult Americans. This is a decline of about 7% compared with Gallup polls taken in the 1970s and 1980s. It is strongest in the South.

Believe in the literal word of the Bible is strongest among those whose schooling stopped with high school and declines steadily with educational level, with only 20% of college graduates holding that view and 11% of those with an advanced degree.

Answer 5

The obvious and correct answer is that, of course, Creationists are scientifically illiterate. However, they are also pathological liars and so it sometimes is hard to distinguish ignorance from dishonesty.

According to the US National Science Foundation (NSF),

• 55% of Americans think that antibiotics kill viruses;

• 51% do not know that it takes a year for the Earth to make one circuit around the Sun. (28% do not know that the earth revolves around the sun.);

• 25% think that sound travels faster than light;

• 66% do not know that the universe began with a huge explosion (the Big Bang);

• Only 29% could adequately explain DNA; 16% the Internet; 13% a molecule; and 11% radiation.

http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind02/to...

According to the US Department of Education, only 18% of high school graduates are proficient in science.

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/sci...

It probably is a safe assumption that Creationists contribute to these dismal results at a higher rate than educated Christians and Atheists.

Answer 6

If you just look at this from the stand point of pure logic, not science, what are the odds that through the process of evolution from an amoeba, or whatever you choose to call it, into the extremely complex system of organized organisms and species we now have would occur just by chance ? It takes way more faith to believe that , than to believe it all was created, by God. Evolution, despite the many years of study by brilliant minds, remains just a theory. If a person chooses not to believe something, like Creation, then how everything got here, exactly as it has, needs to be explained somehow, thus , the THEORY of evolution.
You either believe the Bible by faith, or you adhere to something that as yet, is not proven. Sure, I can't write out definite proof of Creation, but that's the reason for faith. I personally choose to believe, by faith that God created everything. So, one either believes that or a theory that doesn't require belief in God. That's the crux of this whole thing.

Answer 7

I can answer each & every creationist question posed here, but I have evidence that they simply don't wish to know. Humans are very curious critters which is wonderful, but the downside is they want easily understood & simple answers to all questions. Therefore, "God made it" satisfies their curiosity without requiring they ask still more questions & do a lot of thinking about evidence & things like that. They are so arrogant that their reply to any disagreement is likely to be, "I'll pray for you."
Chuckle, if this God fella is all that powerful, why did he rest after the 6th day? That would mean he has limits to his power, wouldn't it?
L. Moran, "Scientists such as myself must share the blame for the lack of public understanding of science. We need to work harder to convey the correct information. Sometimes we don't succeed very well but that does not mean that we are dishonest. On the other hand, the general public, and creationists in particular, need to also work a little harder in order to understand science. Reading a textbook would help."

Answer 8

Nobody likes to be proven wrong. People on both sides of the argument get bullheaded and refuse to even consider that there might be an alternative to their own way of thinking.

I regularly go to church and disagree with the "all at once" creationists. I believe that God created everything and that He is still in that process. After all, the Bible says He rested on the seventh day. It does not say He quit. I believe God is not finished with us. I hope He's not considering the way we treat each other and all other living things. Evolution is the tool. After all, if God is truly "from everlasting to everlasting," the million or so years He's been working on us isn't so very long.

Evolution is pretty much a proven fact. How did it start? When and how will it end? Ask God.

Answer 9

There is evolution no one who happens to be a christian is saying that there isn't, you can tell there is just by how much taller people are from one century to another. In the 1800's I would a very tall man, 5'10", today I am average, in another 50 years I would be considered short. That is evolution. Now humans coming from a 1 celled organism whether it is an amoebas or otherwise is mathematically impossible. With all of the proteins that it takes to make 1 strand of human DNA just to come together is mathematically impossible. It would be like winning the lottery everyday for a 100 years. Outside of that "Faith" is what keeps us going, believing in something bigger than yourself, that you cannot see or touch. But that touches you very deeply.

Answer 10

it is, aye, among some of them they though they know very well what evolution is, and understand it very well, they just choose to ignore it and to help themselfs be a better christian they well choose to trash it, which is disrespecting someone elses beliefs, which is not a good thing to do, they have a bit of a dilema really don't they? the thing is we can prove microscopic evolution look at Mutli resistant Streptococcus Aeraus MRSA that evolived i think some don't understand that evolution doesn't have to mean major changes it can be quite a lot of simple ones that that lead to a big change over a long amount of time, there again if you believe the world is 6000years old i suppose it does seem pretty impossable

Answer 11

One thing I've found with this debate is that many think Christians are against what they call is evolution but is really adaptation. We are not opposed to acknowledging changes in species that naturally occur due to climate changes, radiation, from mixed mating, etc.

What we are opposed to is evolutionists' claim that the whole universe, with all its order and majesty, came to be out of nothing, out of a random explosion.

Science and logical thinking requires that order and creation can not independently come out of chaos/destruction. Science also requires that hypotheses be tested with similar results found. Can the theory of evolution meet these standards?

There are many Christian scientists who can see that there is a God who created the world and everything in it.

Many well known scientists of the past who believed in a Creator God include: Copernicus, Gallileo, Sir Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, William Kelvin , James Maxwell, Albert Einstein,Louis Pasteur, etc.