How did you learn to juggle concepts so well? You use logic AND intuition when you answer. (no easy feat!) How did you learn to juggle spirituality, philosophy, religion, and/or psychology to come up with those responses? Do you ever drop the ball? You obviously use both hemispheres(your right AND left 'hands') Did you know that this is what you were doing? I'm pretty familiar with this circus called Y/A, R&S and I've read your answers and it's no accident. Can you train others, like me? In my last 10 or so questions I threw many ideas of different sizes and weights at you, and you handled them like a pro. WTF?! You seem to have a good grasp on what you know, and don't know.
I consider all of you my Teachers and if I didn't pick your answer as 'best', it doesn't mean I didn't learn a great deal from you. If you decide to keep your 'trade secrets' to yourself, will you at least star my question so that I know you hear me? I know you're very humble, but please indulge me.
2007-06-24
15:12:43
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Even if you've never answered any of my questions I still want to hear your insights.
Peace!
2007-06-24
15:14:40 ·
update #1
Raymond H: Up yours! (spiritually speaking, or not!)
2007-06-24
15:22:35 ·
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shhh...ancient Chinese secret..lol!
2007-06-24
15:47:06 ·
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Michelle v: hmm...for one thing, it takes one to know one...I go to the place where we are all one...these are the questions of my childhood..."...and a child shall lead them..."...the inner child says, 'I love!'
That's your clue. lol!
2007-06-24
16:06:10 ·
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Canron: this is the neighborhood I grew up in...there's no place like home...home is where the heart is...
2007-06-24
16:18:20 ·
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Cosmicfriend: we have leaned on each other. I'll never forget you!
2007-06-24
16:26:23 ·
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Valerie C: your story is my story! Hello sister!
2007-06-24
16:28:43 ·
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Jamie: I knew you from the beginning!
Peace!
2007-06-24
16:30:16 ·
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thor: I'll take it...*exhales*
2007-06-24
16:47:16 ·
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Shaka La`har: whew! You're shifting me woman!
2007-06-24
17:11:37 ·
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James: my brother! You are one of the first voices.
2007-06-24
17:37:34 ·
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yahoo yoda: a long time ago, in a land far, far away, you once asked if Sunman will see what is necessary......thank you.
2007-06-24
17:49:22 ·
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Cornelius: what can I say? You too are one of the first voices...you were never an ordinary ape! lol! I thank you...
2007-06-24
17:56:35 ·
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PSYCHLO: is this a divine reunion or what?! Man, I love you guys...all my Teachers in one place...but where's Searcher?
2007-06-24
18:36:23 ·
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philmeta11: hmmm...I will consider this...and let my Teachers decide with their thumbs...
2007-06-24
18:39:29 ·
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(((hedgewitch)))
2007-06-25
11:26:02 ·
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Searcher: the time is now again...
2007-06-25
11:28:32 ·
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Jon C: don't sell yourself short, anyone who can make it to the 5th dimension (consciously) is surely blessed!
2007-06-25
11:31:09 ·
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Architect: aha!
2007-06-25
11:35:33 ·
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First of all
WTF?! Is going to be a t-shirt. I'm going to wear it on my first day back at work as a school bus driver just to see the looks on their faces! lolol!!! Well, no. Not really, but that's what I do. Test the perimeters of action, inaction, cause and affect. Of course, no one said it had to be an ordeal...I already know that would get me fired. But I keep the idea of WTF?! In the back of my mind. It changes me in subtle ways. (I am totally and completely going to continue this journey with laughter as my companion) Those three letters completely alluminate me. I don't stop at them, I start there.
Key secret #1
Nothing is about emotional response. It's all about reading the feeling inside of your body. Letting instinct take over.
Key secret #2
It's about deliberate action or inaction. Written word is the perfect place to format yourself. The thing that I found is that it does play out in reality. When I stumbled across you and Cosmic drifter, dazmaz, Michellev, Magnolia, eve, and the others that answer your questions I was thinking "ah-ha, jackpot." From my standpoint, this is home away from home. Time and time again, I recreate this crowd.
And I made note. How long did that take?
Yes, of course you train. It's all training. Once you start, you never stop. Human codes cannot be wiped out in a day, not even if you've seen eternity. Our human dna, is formidable an opponent if we don't work to stay IN, the eternal no-thing. We forget in many different ways how massive we are.
Especially here, where remembering is combated on a daily bases. Oh, I get weary. I'm triggered by all that you mention. Logic, psychology, spirituality, philosophy, estoric, magic, magi...
See, I go with what attracts. I realized early on that one of the what appeared to be opposite of me was I loved logical people. I was delving with one level of the spiritual domain, and wham people would show up with scientific evidence. Rather than argue it, I embraced it. It became part of what I heard and what I knew. Soon after, Quantum-Spirituality became a thing. Honestly, I feel like we get attached to certain knowledge and it's handed over on a platter.
What do you want, sunman? order it up.
What fascinates me the most, is how it integrates into our human behavior. Oh, boy; does behavior matter.
Indulge carefully. For residuals leave traces that cling to you. Leaving you vulnerable to forgetfulness.
I have this picture of us standing beneath a funnel with Infinity above it. Slowly feeding us info about who we really are. Eternity/no-thing/all that is at the top. Little human at the bottom. Somehow, that little human can contain all the cosmos and not explode. In Shamanic teachings, that little human is actually capable of channeling all things into life. Cosmos at our command.
It's not the funnel or anything in the funnel that's breaking the connection. IT's OUR BRAIN. What and how we experience things. I'm convinced that the only thing that's standing in the way of you and the divine is how we've completely trained out of our awareness our connection to Infinity.
Our connection to infinity is One. To say it,isn't enough, somehow you have to break through the emotional coding of the body and be weightless.
Now, the bible touches on this alittle bit. With a somewhat less than complete ideal of humility. I say forget being less than perfect. It's as damaging as being overconfident.
Wipe it all out. Begin anew. Don't let your mind interpret the situation for you. Let the situation unfold itself. Allowing you to be taught.
Finally, no; I'm not humble, nor confident. I use them as they come up. I know both of those experiences very well. They've played with me time and time again. The greatest of these is when they are both out of the way, and I just stand before you.
With nothing to gain or lose, no meaning attached to what comes of our connection. It just is.
The dance.
2007-06-24 17:05:59
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answered by shakalahar 4
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Haha! If I may humbly suggest Sunman, it's you!
We just provide the food. It's you that picks the choicest items and makes them into a banquet!
Now, perhaps one could say it's because we are all part of the one. So we all recognise the chords that link us. And I believe that the more 'enlightened' we are, the more we can see the 'truth' in everything around us. Maybe that's why there's a thin line between fools and holy men in many cultures. No?
But whatever the reason in the end, it's you I believe. So give yourself a pat on the back from all of us. Since without your questions there would be no answers, would there?
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2007-06-24 22:44:49
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answered by Wood Uncut 6
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Gosh, Sunman! Do people really manage to do that stuff?
I can't!
When I say I blunder about in the field of Samsara, it's the truth. I suppose I've managed to get to a place where I can just observe my multiple neuroses instead of being blinded by them, but I'm still a hell of a long way from any kind of spiritual athlete.
But still the Eternal sees the universe through my eyes! So I suppose that's alright.
If I have a 'method' it is just to observe and not get dragged in. Sometimes I even manage to do it.
(Really, asking people how they perform a skill is a bit mischeivous. Here's a poem by Alan Watts.)
The centipede was quite content
Until a toad, in fun, said,
"Tell me, which goes after which"?
This worked his mind to such a pitch,
He lay distracted in a ditch,
Considering how to run.
And now I'm off again for a while.
Jon C
2007-06-24 19:29:02
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answered by Anonymous
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" Learned " ? . . . Is something always " learned " or might it be something that one came into understanding of ? Something that was always there yet at some point one was suddenly able to " see " ?
Many see the " light peering beneath the doorway " yet not all open that door to explore.
" Juggling concepts "...using " logic AND intuition " . . . " How done " ? . . . It simply Is. It's a warm knowingness Sunman.
We are all each others teachers on some level or another. We are all one and the Light is all. You, Sunman, are one of the brighter stars.
Smiles to you.
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2007-06-25 12:19:35
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answered by Anonymous
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Mind can never find it's own answers. If they were present, the answer would already be known. Mind/brain is merely a receiver for Consciousness, and therefore can be focused, and then must be silenced in order to hear what comes from behind the mind.
In the stillness of a silent mind and in the presence of a fearless heart, all things can be seen in a 'place' where there are no 'mind objects'; no concepts to grasp. This 'seeing' is not subject to the doubt inherent in minds conceptual functioning, and so it is a knowing. Sometimes referred to as intuition or direct perception.
As mind gently pulls at the threads of knowing, it may form a clumsy conceptual understanding of what is seen.
2007-06-24 18:35:29
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answered by philmeta11 3
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Anyone who can think up and write down that first sentance of your's is doing just fine on his own. Giggles!
Varatious fascination with truths. Inate inability to settle for less than said truths. Life long learner. Spiritual anxt. Fundimentally same yet different, a horse of a different stripe....not usual. Can't help it, I've tryed I get sick. Blagh! Must be me. Disabled giftedness! Through back to my ancessters...thrown foreward....intuition is knowledge and knowledge fluid, moving, connecting, flowing memory, lost and found... foreward. ?????????????????????????I have many questions of my own. Logic is sweeping the steps so that others may see the way! Intuition waits at the top of the stairs. Love phylosophy! Phylosophers are great sweepers! They don't hide things under the rug!
Oh! You were not speeking of me?! Oh well. LOL!
Peace and love,
Jamie
2007-06-24 16:22:43
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answered by Jamie 4
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Hello Sun,
We're moving to another house and I am in the middle of chaos, right now! I just got here and read your great question! So cool to be keeping this all 'alive'. Thank you!
I've been a seeker for-ev-er! Some things...e.g. teachers, books...etc. have 'tasted "right" to me and others, well...I just couldn't buy...call it intuition. This 'magic' that works in 'me/you' will never be completely understood!
I have felt my way...like a woman in a very dark room wanting light in the worst way!!!
Only in recent years and several trips to California (the seeming 'mecca' of spirituality!), have I found some amazing 'stuff'...to clarify the long sought after questions...to scratch the itch...so to speak! :-)
I share what I have learned with all of you, not that I am not still curious, but that long, long, longing is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank godness!
I am now having fun...not wringing my hands, fretting about IT ALL...life, who am I, why, why, what, what....?
I thank all of those and all of you for sharing...endless thanks to you all...endless thanks to the universe!!!
If I ever come across as a 'know it all' forgive me..I just so want to share what I have received. If my 'little crumbs' helps just one of you...well, this is good.
I have not read what others have said...can't wait to...what fun this is! =) Much affection pours from this one to all of you!
P.S. And "Dropping the ball" is so much a part of the whole thing...that is ok, too! I have my moment of "Oh sh*t"..then see the 'karma trickster'...at it again!
2007-06-25 07:35:05
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answered by Eve 4
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Some are born to sing, some to act, some to sweep floors, lay bricks, perform surgery...some to an understanding that they (we) cannot explain, except that we "just know these things".
Drop the ball? Yes. But it is how we react to the dropping that matters.
I am not interested in the hemispheres of this lump of 60% fat in "my" skull...only in that I "need" it to finish my work here in the physical.
Remember to THINK less, and BE more;
"Do good to those that hate you" means, "They" ARE you, seen from a different perspective (the world calls it "Space")..."It is wrong to curse a man..." --Seth.
We are all teachers, and we are all students, until we learn that there is no need for learning.
There is one teaching, and all teachings teach it.
2007-06-25 01:51:45
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Currently, my juggle is a struggle; one with no end.
I go to speak, and the words stop; I go to type, and the words stop; I go to think, and the words stop. Yet, when I stop, the words flow...
I am no teacher, as my ball is always falling; yet, as I continue to pick the ball up, I view myself as a learner. Some tell me this is the only way TO teach, yet I wish not to be called that name (any longer). I once had the striving to teach, but that turned into a striving to learn, which then returned to the striving to teach. Thus, as I learned to teach myself to learn, I ended up with nothing more than a striving to Be!
So the question stands... What am I to Be?
That, I am still figuring out! That, I am still learning! That, I am still teaching myself! I see an endless circle, where many want an end. Even myself, at times, seek an end, for the perpetuation of infinity brings about madness on an everyday basis; yet I strive forward in being infinitly mad!
Do my words make sense?
Does that matter?
Should I want them to make sense?
Should I need to explain?
As I've come to this place of unkowingly knowing what I know I don't know, I find others here with me; and I come to question their presence...
Are they really here? What are they doing here? Do I need them to be here? Or is it that I want them to be here? Do they know that I am here? Do they feel my presence? Do they want me here?
As I ask myself these questions, I come to find the answers to be inevitably elusive. All I get in return are counter-questions...
Am I really here? What am I doing here? Do I need to be here? Or is it that I want to be here? Do I really know that I am here? Can I feel my own presence? Do I really want me here?
Why -- oh why -- is every question and every answer nothing more than another depth of myself? How deep do I go? How deep do I want to go? How deep will I allow myself to go?
As I have continued to ask myself these questions; and, as I have continued to answer these questions of myself... I have been lead to places that I never thought existed. One of those places, as we all know, was hidden deep within this lovely home away from home... Y!A-R&S!
And, the more I continue to search, the more of myself I continue to destroy. Yet, I now realize that there is a certain type of destruction that does more good than it does harm. And, as such, I now have so many friends who agree, and believe the same as me... or at least that's what I tell myself... which works just fine for me.
Love to you all!
P.S. I apologize if this made no sense what-so-ever! Then again, I also apologize if this did make sense. (hehe)
2007-06-25 06:55:16
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answered by Anonymous
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some prefer to only use either left or right brain thinking, as it comes easily that way. there is nothing to be ashamed of in that, for to step outside the confines takes guts and sometimes long training, even a subconscious one, and not everyone is yet ready.
born dead and revived, clung to yet abandoned, tended well yet pruned too often in attempts to keep safe, yet exposed to cold and falseness, throughout the process seeing glimpses beyond the veil; at last the ancestors whispered clearly enough and at age 10 i sprang free and knew i could now openly embrace nature, our beloved Gaia, breathe more deeply, begin walking upon my chosen path.
hard work this path at first! to lean away from the crowd at the church door, school gate, relatives gatherings, to be misunderstood - and yet the joys of the 1st bud of freedom, my spirit friends, the dreams and the images ... all these have kept me strong. kept me questioning, kept me asking and searching, writing and creating and learning.
these travels flowed naturally into my work as teacher, healer, advocate, promoter of the female domain in which the sun god and his kings of men acknowledge yet the patriarchial, scared men repress. you kings know who you are and we queens of the moon salute you!
to drop the ball is not uncommon, otherwise my vibrations would be on a different level and my next life already begun!
but i will train others if they train me, for all our skills and intuit are as valid and revealing as each others, and the teacher gains as much as the learner and vice versa until they are linked like the serpent swallowing his tail and the circle is open yet never unbroken.
i am humble in the face of your questions, we can all, i think, be allowed to indulge each other and continue to help each other grow, develop and love.
2007-06-24 18:57:37
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answered by hedgewitch 4
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