I made a challenge to a paticular person, guess that is why it got booted out. Anyway a paticular third dan in TKD was the focus of my "challenge" I was and am just not on the same page as this person, thank goodness. According to this person it is kata all the way. As well you must be trained by a "master" what ever that means. Anyway one night I got totally upset and made a challenge. Bring your belt and prove that your way is better than mine. If you lose, lay your belt at my feet. Anyway that got tossed out. I don't care if anyone agrees with me or not.
Question: Why not bring back the good old day were "masters" challenged other person if you didn't win you were not as good as that person.
This is my way to attempt to get that on.
puY.
2007-06-24 14:55:20 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Martial Arts
OK...i challenge you and your no-kata ways. If you think kata is a waste of time...come spar with me. We can wear head gear and body padding if you like.
It won't be a "fight" but...just for you to get a feel of what it's like to face someone who has practiced in traditional martial arts.
tedhyu "at" yahoo "dot" com
2007-06-24 15:06:12 · answer #1 · answered by tedhyu 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
He was smart to refuse the challenge. Not because he avoided getting beat up, but because it would've been a stupid and pointless thing to do. What would he have lost if you beat him? His dignity and a teeth or two. What would he have gained if he beat you up and won? Nothing, just bragging rights over a hothead. Now if you had tossed in a million bucks as a prize, then you're talking. Masters in the old days, as you point out, challenged other masters mostly because they wanted to promote their own style and school to bring in more students. More students means more money so they had a good motivation for challenging other styles and schools. Yup, times haven't changed at all, McDojos existed way way before McDonalds even existed, they really have been around a lot longer than you think : P
And to answer your question, No, your challenge wasn't tossed out because you are so dangerous, it was tossed out because there was nothing to be gained in fighting you. You weren't threatening his loved ones or stealing his property, you were just p1ssed off, so he just refused and let you cool off.
2007-06-26 12:24:06 · answer #2 · answered by Shienaran 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't think you would have liked the good old ways that much. First of all, there was a heck of a lot more discipline than today. And second, nobody "play" fought - if you were fighting, you were fighting for your life. A fight between two samurai in Japan often ended with both guys dead. Same applies to Korea, China, etc...
Also, you didn't get to go around fighting for your personal honor as you wished - you were under a feudal lord and you fought who he told you to fight when he told you to fight. Often, the warriors of old were sent into battles they couldn't possibly get out of alive for some advantage to the leader (like a sacrificed pawn in a chess game).
The point I'm trying to make is that all this "real fighting" stuff fails to take into account one important fact about the "real fighting" of old - it wasn't some sport to prove your manhood. It was extreme dirty politics and it was about life or death. We live in a very different society. Very few of us would feel at home in feudal Japan, Korea or Imperial China - even the toughest.
2007-06-24 22:27:52 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
That mentality is already rampant in society today and reflects poorly on the person who values it. 'I'm stronger/faster/richer/smarter and therefore 'better' than you' The fact that a person has no value to you unlss they 'prove' it shows that you have only focused on the physics of martial arts and not the actual art, which is honorable service to family and community and discipline of your body.
Its not ment to give you a sense of superiority to gloat over someone you 'beat'
2007-06-24 22:10:51 · answer #4 · answered by Sugarshots 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Personal attacks are unwaranted. Forms (hyung or poomse in TKD) are central to true Martial Arts. I don't know what style you have studied, but you have a LOT to learn about the "Do" in Martial Arts.
2007-06-25 14:37:54 · answer #5 · answered by yupchagee 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
In those days you studied one art and one only. You accepted the strengths and weaknesses of that particular art. I don't know about you, but I like evolution. I like being able to study multiple arts. I like things like fuel injection, indoor plumbing and electricity.
Your thought process went out years ago. The days of fighting to the death are over.
2007-06-24 22:09:12 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
That's nice. But I can only sense overconfidence from you.
Why don't you challenge me then? You can message me if you want. I won't refuse.
I'll tell you what to do after you send me the message.
2007-06-25 00:01:40 · answer #7 · answered by Reaper 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
My friend Yupchagee is correct. I stand beside him.
2007-06-25 15:18:11 · answer #8 · answered by JV 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Thank you for the two points.
2007-06-25 00:19:45 · answer #9 · answered by Gary W 3 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Grow up.
2007-06-25 00:02:13 · answer #10 · answered by lee49202 3 · 4⤊ 0⤋